The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[Spidey616]

Preview of next week's X-Force as superstar artists Mike Choi and Sonia Oback come on board

X-Force #7 Preview (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5030.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_X-Force_%237)

[Ryan F]

I'm getting more and more into Matt Fraction's Uncanny run. Also, pairs really well with Ellis's Astonishing - the X-Men have become some sort of SF-based Global Frequency team and cool mutant club. Weird but fresh.

X-Factor had a very fun twist. Stroman art still a bit shaky. Longshot was one of my favorite X-Men when he was on the team...now I'd rather not see him anymore.

I'm starting to think Young X-Men is a serious trainwreck. Ink is a crap, generic character on the verge of reaching Mary Sue status. The New Mutants seemed off. I don't know what the deal is with Graymalkin...and I don't really care. The ending revelation was supposed to be exciting? Also, carbon dating living tissue is so wrong it made me wince - not a big deal, but the kind of thing that takes me right out of a book.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Just read Uncanny 502. Good stuff. Land's art this issue was a bit better (imo) than it has been. This new storyline is intriguing and I'm loving the return of Empath. I always thought he was a great character.

X-Factor 35. Much better than the previous two issues. I think Stroman's art here is better than the previous issues, as well. Pretty good stuff, and I'm hoping this title can get back on track a bit more.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Preview of next week's X-Force as superstar artists Mike Choi and Sonia Oback come on board

X-Force #7 Preview (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5030.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_X-Force_%237)

Nice. Vast improvement over Clayton Crain, imo.

[artimoff]

Just read Uncanny 502. Good stuff. Land's art this issue was a bit better (imo) than it has been. This new storyline is intriguing and I'm loving the return of Empath. I always thought he was a great character.



I can't agree. #502 was just bad. Bad art, bad dialogue, bad character moments, bad plot.

[Balefuego]

I still don't like Land, but everything else about Uncanny is clicking perfectly for me right now.

More character description boxes!

and more dazzler!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Read Deadpool #1 last night. I was pleasantly surprised. I had convinced myself that I wasn't going to like Way's take on Deadpool (I'm not sure why), but it was pretty good. Not quite up to the level of Nicieza or Kelly, but not too far behind. I think given a few more issues, Way might fully hit his stride on this book.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I can't agree. #502 was just bad. Bad art, bad dialogue, bad character moments, bad plot.

:(

[Jason California]

Is Omega Sentinel the India Indian Thunderbirds old girl friend from the X-Men annual a few years back?


I wish I could help you out Jason, but I don't know the answer. Maybe someone else here knows.

[Ryan F]

I wish I could help you out Jason, but I don't know the answer. Maybe someone else here knows.

Yes, I think she was.

I looked it up for you. Happy now? ;)

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Is Omega Sentinel the India Indian Thunderbirds old girl friend from the X-Men annual a few years back?

I don't remember where the story took place, but there origins are tied together. I don't think she was the girlfriend, though.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

From wiki:

Shapandar was a police officer from India who was transformed into an Omega Prime Sentinel by Bastion of the Operation: Zero Tolerance program. It all started when Karima was dispatched to look after Neal Shaara (who would later become known as Thunderbird). Neal was looking for his brother, Sanjit, who had gone missing while researching some mysterious disappearances in Calcutta. A bond quickly developed between the two, and they were on the verge of beginning a romantic relationship when they were attacked and captured by Bastion. Neal learned that Sanjit had become a Prime Sentinel, programmed to seek out and destroy mutants. Bastion intended to do the same to Neal and Karima, but the morphing process catalyzed Neal’s latent mutant power, which destroyed the building around him. Sanjit fought his programming long enough to disable the other Sentinels, but died in the process.

As Neal cradled Sanjit’s body, Shapandar quietly told Neal to run. She had discovered that she was a Prime Sentinel; humans transformed into sentinels and set up as 'sleeper' agents, unaware of their programming until a nearby mutant activated them (as in Neal's usage of his mutant powers).
“ "I am an Omega Prime. Within moments I will have reached my full combat mode–with my core programming to destroy creatures like you. It is becoming increasingly difficult to even think of you as human. Your only chance is to disappear. Get as far away from India – and from me – as you can. Assume a new identity... a new life." ”

Neal refused, saying he loved Karima. Karima begged him to leave, saying she couldn't hold on much longer. Neal was forced to flee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karima_Shapandar

[Spidey616]

An interview with Chris Yost on the future of X-Force with some sweet new Mike Choi preview pages

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18134

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xforce/7/XFORCE007007_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xforce/7/XFORCE007012_col.jpg

[Balefuego]

I am digging the hell out of X-Force I have to admit

[WhindamPryce]

From that preview it looks like Warren is now able to change back & forth. Very interesting.
X-Force has the keys to my heart in the X-universe currently. Hope they include the Ain't No Dog (is that what it was called?) one-shot in the collection.

On a side-note, X-Factor needs an artist change, pronto!

[Arion]

From that preview it looks like Warren is now able to change back & forth. Very interesting.
X-Force has the keys to my heart in the X-universe currently. Hope they include the Ain't No Dog (is that what it was called?) one-shot in the collection.

On a side-note, X-Factor needs an artist change, pronto!

I didn't know that about Angel. Interesting.

[Jason California]

Yes, I think she was.

I looked it up for you. Happy now? ;)

I don't remember where the story took place, but there origins are tied together. I don't think she was the girlfriend, though.


Thanks guys.

[HomerGator]

It looks like maybe Warren turns into Archangel when he's attacked, or in danger? I hope it's not something he can control...

[rogerio]

ASTONISHING X-MEN: GHOST BOXES #1 PREVIEW
Adi Granov is awesome...:)
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/astonishingxmen13.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/marvelfirsts.htm

[markgrayson]

ASTONISHING X-MEN: GHOST BOXES #1 PREVIEW
Adi Granov is awesome...:)
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/astonishingxmen13.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/marvelfirsts.htm

UGH! Now I have to buy this.

[Rivka]

An interview with Chris Yost on the future of X-Force with some sweet new Mike Choi preview pages...

It looks awesome.

I did not like the concept of X-FORCE. I did NOT want to like it. I do not support turning an X-Men squad into a death-squad. But I gave Yost's X-FORCE a chance. And it is just about the best written X-Book, with some of the best art. I am very torn about spending money on the series; the premise vs. the superior art and writing and editing.

And Rahne Sinclair is my third favorite comic book character. And I have to see what happens to poor Rahne.

As to Warren Worthington, I have to say, I've been reading X-MEN since 1963, and this is the best development of the Angel character, ever. What a brainstorm! Which version of Warren is best, or most exciting -- how about, both versions? And it fits perfectly with canon; regarding what Apocalypse did to Warren using the Celestial cells. It fits perfectly with the symbolism of light angel and dark angel. It works perfectly as a psychological analogy. And it works perfectly as a psychological manifestation of the character. And the development feels like it's always been there, waiting to be uncovered.

I don't want to be hooked, but I'm hooked on this book.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

1) Dark Angel = Demon, doesn't it?

b) Did no one tell Granov that you supposed to go with under-dressed and sexy for Emma? He flies in the face of established X-continuity by making her sexier than ever and fully dressed!

[Arion]

ASTONISHING X-MEN: GHOST BOXES #1 PREVIEW
Adi Granov is awesome...:)
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/astonishingxmen13.jpg
http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0809/20/marvelfirsts.htm

That's beyond awesome.

[Kefky]

Hey, guys, Paul O'Brien wrote a review of young x-men 6 while he was drunk:

http://ifdestroyed.blogspot.com/

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

And he's still amazingly wrong. I just read his reviews because he's entertainingly wrong...

[HomerGator]

Hmmm. I rather like Young X-Men...

[Balefuego]

I thought the Donald Pierce reveal should have come a couple issues sooner.. it's asking a lot for readers of a new series to stick with the story that long without a hook other than "this makes no sense and everyone is out of character".

That said, now that the first arc is over and the team is roster is seemingly established, the book is getting better.

[Spidey616]

Chris Yost is on this week's CBR X-Position, and some nice looking X-Force preview pages. :cool:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18278

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xforce/8/xforce8-005.jpg

[rogerio]

Chris Yost is on this week's CBR X-Position, and some nice looking X-Force preview pages. :cool:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18278

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xforce/8/xforce8-005.jpg
I really need to buy this book...;-)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It really is a lot more fun then they made it sound in previews back when Maguffin Complex was running. I gave it a pass and online comments got me curious so now I'm a regular reader...

[artimoff]

BAH!! X-Men First Class is canceled. :cry: Why God, Why?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It was lightweight and the costumes destroyed any hope of seeing the book as continuity, despite what everyone ever questioned at Marvel had to say about it? It should have just been twenty pages of that gal that drew the back ups...

[Spidey616]

An interview is up on IGN with the various x-men editors on the future of the X-Men, with a lot of awesome preview pages of a few x titles.

http://comics.ign.com/articles/916/916201p1.html

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/916/916201/the-future-of-the-x-men-20081003031053389.jpg

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http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/916/916201/the-future-of-the-x-men-20081003030259299.jpg

[Howlett]

An interview is up on IGN with the various x-men editors on the future of the X-Men, with a lot of awesome preview pages of a few x titles.

Cool interview. I'm pleased with what I heard. Thanks man :beer:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

"It's showing another facet of the X-universe, as is NYX."

"The X-Men won't play a role in War of Kings."

These two quotes from the article illustrate why the X-Books are increasingly irrelevant to the greater MU. First was the overdoing the No More Mutants thing (198? Really? They honestly thought that was the way to go?) and now they're continuing to sequester the characters from everything important. I know it'll never happen but I kinda wish each X-Book were assigned to a different editor and forced to interact to their other books. I'm sick of the X-Ghetto!

[Arion]

BAH!! X-Men First Class is canceled. :cry: Why God, Why?

Titles get canceled. It is sad but it happens.

[HomerGator]

"It's showing another facet of the X-universe, as is NYX."

"The X-Men won't play a role in War of Kings."

These two quotes from the article illustrate why the X-Books are increasingly irrelevant to the greater MU. First was the overdoing the No More Mutants thing (198? Really? They honestly thought that was the way to go?) and now they're continuing to sequester the characters from everything important. I know it'll never happen but I kinda wish each X-Book were assigned to a different editor and forced to interact to their other books. I'm sick of the X-Ghetto!

The X-Men aren't going to be in War of Kings because it isn't taking place on Earth. The Starjammers, made mostly of former X-Men, will likely be front and center (or at least important) in the story.

I don't think the X-universe is irrelevant to the greater MU, I think that since House of M the editors/writers have decided to focus on the X-Men, and getting the books to where they want them. I imagine we will be seeing the X-Men interacting with the greater Marvel U more and more. In fact, judging from future solicitations, it looks like Ghost Rider will be showing up in the current arc of X-Force.

Plus, the greater Marvel U, for the most part, is not exactly comfortable around the X-Men (with a few exceptions, mostly Reed and Susan Richards, Spider-Man, Tony Stark, and probably Steve Rogers). As a result, they don't get called out to play as much as teams like the FF or the Avengers.

[Omega Flight]

The X-Men aren't going to be in War of Kings because it isn't taking place on Earth. The Starjammers, made mostly of former X-Men, will likely be front and center (or at least important) in the story.

I don't think the X-universe is irrelevant to the greater MU, I think that since House of M the editors/writers have decided to focus on the X-Men, and getting the books to where they want them. I imagine we will be seeing the X-Men interacting with the greater Marvel U more and more. In fact, judging from future solicitations, it looks like Ghost Rider will be showing up in the current arc of X-Force.

Plus, the greater Marvel U, for the most part, is not exactly comfortable around the X-Men (with a few exceptions, mostly Reed and Susan Richards, Spider-Man, Tony Stark, and probably Steve Rogers). As a result, they don't get called out to play as much as teams like the FF or the Avengers.

How do we know that? They got involved when Vulcan chased after the Shi'Ar didn't they? Considering Vulcan who's trying to take the universe in his grip and has his teammates and brother hostage he's probably going to interfere in some fashion.

Plus I think the X-Men are interacting a fair amount with the Marvel U what with Secret Invasion:X-Men and some other things like some of the X-Men appearing in A:TI and the Wonder Man/Beast teamup that's apparently going to happen in Mighty Avengers.

I don't think it's such a big deal if the X-Men don't appear in every other issue of Avengers since they have their own affairs to tend to anyhow.

[artimoff]

It was lightweight and the costumes destroyed any hope of seeing the book as continuity, despite what everyone ever questioned at Marvel had to say about it? It should have just been twenty pages of that gal that drew the back ups...


They actually comment that they have other costume designs that they wear. Stan Lee's stories just took place on other days.

[Omega Flight]

okay I owe an apology to homer. I read the article, it's too bad I woulda liked to see the x-men team up with the gotg. Though I find it weird they're not cleaning up their own mess by stopping Vulcan.

[HomerGator]

okay I owe an apology to homer. I read the article, it's too bad I woulda liked to see the x-men team up with the gotg. Though I find it weird they're not cleaning up their own mess by stopping Vulcan.

No worries ;)

The thing is, they don't know about the situation with Vulcan. All they know is that Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl stayed with the Starjammers to take out Vulcan and avenge Corsair. As far as I know, they are not aware of the events that transpired in the Emperor Vulcan mini (which was really good).

[CougarTrace]

I know I'm late, but I was catching up on my comics last night and it was sure good to see Dazzler back in Uncanny.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I'd say we saw a woman calling herself Dazzler who bore no resemblance to the most recent version in New Excalibur or to any other version that has come before. Well, maybe Warren's uncle but that's it...

[Howlett]

I'd say we saw a woman calling herself Dazzler who bore no resemblance to the most recent version in New Excalibur or to any other version that has come before. Well, maybe Warren's uncle but that's it...

I'm actually pretty ticked off that the look from New Excalibur is being pretty much ignored. I liked the pink hair and leather jacket look she had.

[Omega Flight]

No worries ;)

The thing is, they don't know about the situation with Vulcan. All they know is that Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl stayed with the Starjammers to take out Vulcan and avenge Corsair. As far as I know, they are not aware of the events that transpired in the Emperor Vulcan mini (which was really good).

It's not so much them being aware as them thinking they should go back to get their friends. I mean they have the manpower and at some point wouldn't they be worried Alex, Lorna, and Rachel might get killed?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Maybe they just want to give Alex and Lorna their three millionth time to go through a relationship and an ugly break up without having to watch this time. When they think the drama's over, maybe that's when they'll head into space.

But seriously, it is beyond lame that Chuck and Kurt didn't get another ship and head right back out. They left their friends defeated and captured and now go about their business as if they don't give a shit. I'd expect that from Xavier but not the others. Maybe he made them not care?

[Spidey616]

Kyle and Yost talk X-Force and some new Mike Choi preview art.

X-Force: Vanished (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.5310.X-Force%7Ecolon%7E_Vanished)

Looks like there's explanation as to why the Legacy Virus is still a threat even after Colossus' sacrifice and a hint of bigger things to come.

[Marcdachamp]

Kyle and Yost talk X-Force and some new Mike Choi preview art.

X-Force: Vanished (http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.5310.X-Force%7Ecolon%7E_Vanished)

Looks like there's explanation as to why the Legacy Virus is still a threat even after Colossus' sacrifice and a hint of bigger things to come.

Awesome read! Love this book.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I was actually quite happy with the latest issue of X-Force

[HomerGator]

It's not so much them being aware as them thinking they should go back to get their friends. I mean they have the manpower and at some point wouldn't they be worried Alex, Lorna, and Rachel might get killed?

Didn't Alex send the X-Men a message saying he was going to stay in Shi'Ar space with the Starjammers, and that Lorna and Rachel were going to fight with him? Plus, I think Scott realizes that taking down Vulcan is probably something that Alex needs to do for himself. While I'm sure Scott would love nothing more than to help Alex put Gabriel in the dirt for what he did to Sean Cassidy and Corsair, I would imagine he thinks the Starjammers, with the added power of Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl (not to mention Korvus) are up to the task.

Of course, it would be nice to see this mentioned IN the books, but that seems to be something we might have to wait on for a while. Hopefully Chris Yost gets to write it.

[Spidey616]

X-Men: Original Sin one-shot is out this week and writers Mike Carey and Daniel Way and Editor John Barber are in this week's X-Position talking about the storyline and other X-Men related stuff.

X-POSITION: Mike Carey & Daniel Way (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18354)

[Corwin]

Didn't Alex send the X-Men a message saying he was going to stay in Shi'Ar space with the Starjammers, and that Lorna and Rachel were going to fight with him? Plus, I think Scott realizes that taking down Vulcan is probably something that Alex needs to do for himself. While I'm sure Scott would love nothing more than to help Alex put Gabriel in the dirt for what he did to Sean Cassidy and Corsair, I would imagine he thinks the Starjammers, with the added power of Havok, Polaris, and Marvel Girl (not to mention Korvus) are up to the task.

Of course, it would be nice to see this mentioned IN the books, but that seems to be something we might have to wait on for a while. Hopefully Chris Yost gets to write it.

Wasn't there supposed to be a Cyclops story coming up in some anthology book (MCP? Manifest Destiny?) where he reflects on his Dad's death? The Havok story in Divided We Stand was pretty awesome too.

[Howlett]

Wasn't there supposed to be a Cyclops story coming up in some anthology book (MCP? Manifest Destiny?) where he reflects on his Dad's death? The Havok story in Divided We Stand was pretty awesome too.

Really? I hadn't heard about this. If that's true, I'm pleased. I'm really loving Cyclops these days, and stories involving him and his feelings towards Corsair always interested me.

Welcome to the board by the way man. Great avatar :beer:

[billthomason]

Ok guys. Could use some non spoiler assistance. Haven't read an X-book since Messiah Complex since I just get trades. The trades for the most of the books are coming out. Divided He Stands, Divided We Stand, etc. Any preferred reading order for these?

I know there is the two X-men books, Uncanny, Cable, X-Factor, Wolverine, X-Force, Young X-Men.

[artimoff]

Ok guys. Could use some non spoiler assistance. Haven't read an X-book since Messiah Complex since I just get trades. The trades for the most of the books are coming out. Divided He Stands, Divided We Stand, etc. Any preferred reading order for these?

I know there is the two X-men books, Uncanny, Cable, X-Factor, Wolverine, X-Force, Young X-Men.


Nope. They are all prety self contained.

[HomerGator]

Personally, I'd go Wolverine, X-Force, X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Wolverine:Origins, Young X-Men, Uncanny X-Men, Cable

They're all pretty darn good, though. Even though I have Cable and Uncanny at the end of my list, I enjoy both.

[Spidey616]

Previews for next week's X Books are up-

Astonishing X-Men #27 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1179&disp=table)

Uncanny X-Men #503 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1202&disp=table)

X-Men World's Apart #1 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1203&disp=table)

Young X-Men #7 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1204&disp=table)

[Spidey616]

Preview pages of WEAPON X: FIRST CLASS are up at marvel.com


The Secrets Of Wolverine & Weapon X Are Revealed! (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5437.The_Secrets_Of_Wolverine_%26_Wea pon_X_Are_Revealed)

[Spidey616]

Way talks the future of the Deadpool title with some cool preview art. Never thought of using Semtex explosives to make a chair :D

Merc With A Mouth To Feed: Daniel Way Talks Deadpool (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18470)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/deadpool/4/DPOOL004002.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/deadpool/4/DPOOL004004.jpg

[Marcdachamp]

I might start picking up Deadpool, at least in trades. I was skeptical of Way, but I've heard great things.

[billthomason]

You know, I think the most logical reason not to have any Skrulls infiltrate the X-men is pretty simple: Wolverine.

They don't need any other explanation.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Uncanny 503: restored my faith in the writing team. The last page return was great and eliminates one more candidate from the mystery of who Mutant X is. Could do with a lot less Pixie tho' and without any Dazzler. I liked her better in New Excalibur as the woman who just wanted to sing rather than the airhead retrocase we get here.

Astonishing: Ellis continues to prove my case that he's the smartest man currently writing comics and again provides a logical in character reason for the apparent out of character behavior on Cyclops' part line wide.

Young X-Men: If this book sucked any harder it would have taken the paint off my walls. I know the original New Mutants Volume 2 book was horrid too. How long a run did that writing team have before they were kicked to the curb? Maybe the current X-Editors will wise up sooner.

[Spidey616]

I kinda have mixed feelings about Simone Bianchi's art on Astonishing X-Men. Some pages are great, but the way he draws people.....well just take a look of Cyclops' face in one panel.

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/921/921383/must-have-comics-vol-9-20081017045048582.jpg

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I was a bit disappointed in Uncanny 503. Not as good as the last couple issues, I thought. It's possible that Land is just started to get to me, though.

Next up: Astonishing.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I might start picking up Deadpool, at least in trades. I was skeptical of Way, but I've heard great things.

yeah, it's been pretty enjoyable. I was surprised.

[Calavera]

Yeesh, I need to drop either Uncanny or Astonishing. I'm getting sick of Cyke/Emma.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Yeesh, I need to drop either Uncanny or Astonishing. I'm getting sick of Cyke/Emma.

Yeah, I know what you mean

[Omega Flight]

Yeesh, I need to drop either Uncanny or Astonishing. I'm getting sick of Cyke/Emma.

What do you mean if I may ask? I'm personally enjoying their dynamic in Uncanny though I can see what you mean in Astonishing since Emma comes off as a bit of a you-know-what there. Well then again so does Armor. :-?

[BAMF]

I'm loving Astonishing early on, but I still need to warm up to Uncanny. Land might have a lot to do with it...I'm anxiously awaiting Dodson.

[Omega Flight]

I'm loving Astonishing early on, but I still need to warm up to Uncanny. Land might have a lot to do with it...I'm anxiously awaiting Dodson.

Same here. Land's work is better than previous but I'd rather have someone other than him since his artwork is just distracting.

[Spidey616]

Yup, gotta agree with people about Land's art on Uncanny. Not doing it for me. Can't wait to see the Dodsons work.

Speaking of which, there's some preview art of Uncanny and other X titles from the last CBR X Position with Nick Lowe

X-POSITION: Nick Lowe (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18433)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/uncannyxmen/503/UNCX504003_150.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/uncannyxmen/503/UNCX504007_150i.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/secretinvasion/SECINVXM003006_color.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/secretinvasion/SECINVXM003007_color.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/secretinvasion/SECINVXM003016_color.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Give me Land over Dodson any day. When I see Dodson it's just lifeless cheesecake to me. Uncanny 501-503 may not have been Land's greatest work by far but it still has more energy than I've ever seen from Doson.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I'm not a fan of Land or Dodson, tbh

[Spidey616]

Advanced solicits for the X-Men titles are up, and there's a lot of good stuff. The birth of Madrox and Siryn's baby, the return of Rogue. Yay :)

X-Men Jan Solicits (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18497)

[HOOKS]

No Uncanny for January? Hopefully it will be in the full solicitations tomorrow.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

A poster elsewhere has suggested that what Maddie did to Scott in 503 was somehow analagous to rape. Thoughts?

[Ben]

A poster elsewhere has suggested that what Maddie did to Scott in 503 was somehow analagous to rape. Thoughts?Yeah, sure, it was certainly analogous. Doesn't mean it's as bad as or in any way similar to rape on its own.

[billthomason]

Question about timeline involving Astonishing X-Men and Messiah Complex.

I haven't read anything post MC and the last Astonishing X-men trade. So please no spoilers.

Where does AXM fit into the timeline?

[HOOKS]

Question about timeline involving Astonishing X-Men and Messiah Complex.

I haven't read anything post MC and the last Astonishing X-men trade. So please no spoilers.

Where does AXM fit into the timeline?

MESSIAH COMPLEX takes place after ASTONISHING X-MEN: UNSTOPPABLE.

[Spidey616]

PAD talks the future of X-Factor with some preview art at IGN.

Investigating X-Factor (http://comics.ign.com/articles/926/926689p1.html)

[Spidey616]

An interview with Matt Fraction is up on IGN on Uncanny X-Men with some cool Dodson preview art. A New Era of Uncanny X-Men (http://comics.ign.com/articles/925/925911p1.html)

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/925/925911/uncanny-x-men-20081031041926522.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/925/925911/uncanny-x-men-20081031041923116.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/925/925911/uncanny-x-men-20081031041919757.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/925/925911/uncanny-x-men-20081031041911366.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/925/925911/uncanny-x-men-20081031041907476.jpg

[HomerGator]

So, I just read some X-men comics, and I'm sure everyone is very anxious to see what I thought of them.

X-Force continues to be friggin' awesome. I loved everything about this issue!

Secret Invasion:X-Men is also awesome, and the ending of the last issue was just... you got a bad feeling reading what Hank was thinking towards the end, and you kind of knew what was coming, but still... that last page was chilling. I heart Mike Carey's X-Men.

Astonishing X-Men: Ghost Boxes... I am not real happy that I paid four dollars for this. The art is amazing throughout, for sure, with Alan Davis and Adi Granov, but what the hell was the point of this? Multiverse X-Men? Who cares? Alternate universes in Marvel should be left to the Exiles.

There's nothing especially wrong with the issue, it's just impossible to give a shit about 'here's what happened when Wolverine was too late and then other X-Men get f'ed up'. I very much doubt I'll be getting the second issue.

Oh! I also read the Original Sin issues, and damn! Great stuff, I can't wait to see how it ends.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

just read X-Force 8

Was that Demon Bear that Warpath was facing down at the end? If so... AWESOME!

[HomerGator]

That's what I assumed.

[Howlett]

just read X-Force 8

Was that Demon Bear that Warpath was facing down at the end? If so... AWESOME!

I do believe that was in fact the Demon Bear.

[Spidey616]

Anyone read Guggenheim's Greymalkin story in Manifest Destiny?

Some interesting backstory about the character and the revelation that his father buried him alive because of his homosexuality.

[Howlett]

Anyone read Guggenheim's Greymalkin story in Manifest Destiny?

Some interesting backstory about the character and the revelation that his father buried him alive because of his homosexuality.

That was indeed pretty fucking cool. If for no other reason than they didn't over do it with the reveal. It was nice and subtle, and almost a throwaway factor to how he came to be how he is.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I'm hoping this leads to an Anole-Graymalkin friendship rather than a relationship. It wouldn't however be uncommon if they did have a fling before settling down to being lifelong best friends. It's fairly common amongst my people to do things that way. Some of my best friends I didn't even get their names before...

[Spidey616]

Now these are some bloody exciting Deadpool preview pages :deadpool:

FIRST LOOK: Deadpool #4
(http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.5923.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_Deadpool_%234)

[Spidey616]

Quite a few X Books out next week. Spiral fans will be happy to see her return in Uncanny.

Uncanny X-Men #504 Preview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1383&disp=table)

X-Factor #37 Preview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1400&disp=table)

X-Me:n Legacy #218 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1382&disp=table)

Young X-Men #8 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1402&disp=table)

X-Men: Worlds Apart #2 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1401&disp=table)

[MabusRex]

Y'know...for as much as I hate Storm, Yost is writing the hell out of Worlds Apart. Needs more Gentle!

[ProjectRX]

Wow, am I lost. I mostly haven't read comics in 10-15 years. I've tried to follow some of the major events, but really haven't followed X-Men much since, hmm...Fatal Attractions? Maybe Phallanx Covenant? Anybody up to the extreme challenge of updating me? Maybe just some suggested reading?

[HomerGator]

Wow, am I lost. I mostly haven't read comics in 10-15 years. I've tried to follow some of the major events, but really haven't followed X-Men much since, hmm...Fatal Attractions? Maybe Phallanx Covenant? Anybody up to the extreme challenge of updating me? Maybe just some suggested reading?

Honestly, I would suggest reading up on either Wikipedia or Marvel.com, and if you're looking for cool X-Men comics, I recommend:

New X-Men: E is for Extinction
New X-Men: Imperial
House of M
Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men
Messiah Complex
Ultimate X-Men vol 1: The Tomorrow People

and as far as CURRENT X-Men comics, Uncanny X-Men is like mutant central, where you have a good chance of seeing your favorites, no matter who they are. X-Men:Legacy is a look at Professor X, X-Force is AWESOME, and is essentially a Wolverine-led team Cyclops put together to take out dangers to mutants, permanently.

[HOOKS]

Wow, am I lost. I mostly haven't read comics in 10-15 years. I've tried to follow some of the major events, but really haven't followed X-Men much since, hmm...Fatal Attractions? Maybe Phallanx Covenant? Anybody up to the extreme challenge of updating me? Maybe just some suggested reading?

In chronological order:

NEW X-MEN by Grant Morrison and Various
Collected in one omnibus, three hardcovers, or seven trade paperbacks, containing New X-Men #114-154 + New X-Men Annual 2001

ASTONISHING X-MEN by Joss Whedon and John Cassiday
Collected in two hardcovers or four trade paperbacks, containing Astonishing X-Men #1-24 + Giant-Sized Astonishing X-Men.

HOUSE OF M by Brian Bendis and Oliver Colpier
Collected in one trade paperback, containing HOUSE OF M #1-8. [Note: Takes place between ASTONISHING X-MEN HC 1 and 2, or ASTONISHING X-MEN TPB 2 and 3 - essentially between issues #12 and 13 of the series]

X-MEN: MESSIAH COMPLEX by Various
Collected in one hardcover, containing various X-Men books.

After you read up to this point, you can jump onto the singles with ASTONISHING X-MEN #26, UNCANNY X-MEN #500, X-FORCE #1 and the various peripheral titles if you so choose.

[HomerGator]

Heh. Right on.

[ProjectRX]

Thanx for the suggestions. I'll see what I can do.

[ProjectRX]

Having given it further thought, I have actually read E is for Extinction, and was confused. Also House of M, and was not so confused, but felt that I should have been. Finally I read the first Astonishing trade, but it was a long time ago and all I remember is that Collossus came back, and is there really anything else that one need know?

[Spidey616]

Advanced X-Solicits are Feb are up. No Old Man Logan unfortunately, and Exiles fans will be disapointed to hear New Exiles' final issue.

Advance X-Solicitations, February 2009 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18844)

[HOOKS]

Advanced X-Solicits are Feb are up. No Old Man Logan unfortunately, and Exiles fans will be disapointed to hear New Exiles' final issue.

Advance X-Solicitations, February 2009 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18844)

There's also no ASTONISHING X-MEN for the month, surprise surprise.

[HOOKS]

Having given it further thought, I have actually read E is for Extinction, and was confused. Also House of M, and was not so confused, but felt that I should have been. Finally I read the first Astonishing trade, but it was a long time ago and all I remember is that Collossus came back, and is there really anything else that one need know?

Depends on what you were confused about.

Also, while a lot of things happened during the NEW X-MEN run that has since been reversed, it's still a damn good story. Same with ASTONISHING X-MEN.

[HomerGator]

There's also no ASTONISHING X-MEN for the month, surprise surprise.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm just not feeling this new Astonishing run. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I still have this sour taste in my mouth over wasting four dollars on that fucking Ghost Boxes issue, but I'm really wishing they had just cancelled the book when Whedon and Cassaday left.

Like Marvel Knights Spider-Man from a few years back (or the adjectiveless Spider-Man from the 90's) the book was created to feature a creator or creative team (Millar for MKSM, MacFarlane in the 90's). When said creator(s) leave the book, the book should end. Neither of the two Spider-Man books were ever the same once the featured creator(s) left the book, and I have a feeling Astonishing just will never live up to the level it was at when Joss and John were doing it.

And honestly, the other X-books are just better right now. There's really no reason to have Astonishing. The characters can all be found elsewhere, and IMO, are all portrayed better elsewhere.

[SpecialK]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm just not feeling this new Astonishing run. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that I still have this sour taste in my mouth over wasting four dollars on that fucking Ghost Boxes issue, but I'm really wishing they had just cancelled the book when Whedon and Cassaday left.

...

And honestly, the other X-books are just better right now. There's really no reason to have Astonishing. The characters can all be found elsewhere, and IMO, are all portrayed better elsewhere.

Ya, Astonishing just doesn't feel the same as it did with Whedon. While I like Ellis' writing and Bianchi's art, this hasn't been very interesting so far. I'll stick with it for this arc and maybe reconsider later.

The other X-books are fantastic (though I could do without Young). This kind of makes me think that they should do a bi-monthly or tri-monthly Uncanny rather than have Astonishing.

[billthomason]

Question about X-Factor, Madrox, Messiah Complex

Spoilers for MC:
Madrox still has the 'M' brand on his face. He sent a dupe to the future right? He personally stayed in the present? But when the dupe got branded and was killed/absorbed, the M became a part of the real Madrox? Is that accurate? I don't have my MC book with me.

[Howlett]

Question about X-Factor, Madrox, Messiah Complex

Spoilers for MC:
Madrox still has the 'M' brand on his face. He sent a dupe to the future right? He personally stayed in the present? But when the dupe got branded and was killed/absorbed, the M became a part of the real Madrox? Is that accurate? I don't have my MC book with me.

Yup. That's it.

[SpecialK]

Question about X-Factor, Madrox, Messiah Complex

Spoilers for MC:
Madrox still has the 'M' brand on his face. He sent a dupe to the future right? He personally stayed in the present? But when the dupe got branded and was killed/absorbed, the M became a part of the real Madrox? Is that accurate? I don't have my MC book with me.

Since you mentioned it, did they say that another X-Factor one-shot was in a works to look at the other dupe sent to the other future? I thought I heard/read that somewhere, but I could be mistaken.

[HomerGator]

This week's books:

Uncanny X-Men: I enjoy this book so much more when Terry Dodson is drawing it... I loved the sequence of Emma taking a tour through Scott's head. It was great to see Colossus taking more of a center-stage role, too. And it looks like Madelyne's got something going on...

X-Factor: Man, it's amazing how much difference a penciller can make. Really good issue, with excellent use of everyone's powers (especially Jamie's... X-Cutioner's Song revisited...ew), great dialogue, and a last page that promises next issue will be interesting, to say the least.

Young X-Men: OK, I'll admit it. I didn't think the whole superpower tattoos were going to be that great, but that cliffhanger with the field team against a whole shitload of... well, if you read the issue, you saw. That shit looks rather daunting. Interesting last page in this one, too.

Good books this week. I also finally picked up the latest Manifest Destiny, and I think this one was the best of the series so far. Excellent EXCELLENT! use of Bobby's powers on display courtesy of Mike Carey, and I'm really hoping we get to see Iceman do something not many others have done- take down Mystique! The Graymalkin chapter was unexpected (I didn't know it was even in the issue) and had a rather unforseen revelation. But the best chapter of the issue was the Colossus story. I've always been a fan of the big guy, so I'm a little biased, but I thought this was really strong. Chris Yost strikes again!

[Spidey616]

Looks like some good stuff coming up in X-Force #9 (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.6151.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_X-Force_%239) next week. Like-

Marauder clones including Sabretooth, and Ghost Rider makes the scene

[Spidey616]

And that's a nice X-Infernus Page

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/6155new_storyimage7198323_full.jpg

[Dr. Hackenbush]

And that's a nice X-Infernus Page

http://www.marvel.com/comics/onsale/lib/view2.htm?filename=/i/content/st/6155new_storyimage7198323_full.jpg

I love how that page is a "Watcher world premiere", yet it was published in last month's Marvel Previews.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

It was new to me. Not very good either.

[Dr. Hackenbush]

It was new to me. Not very good either.

If you want to get a good idea of what Giuseppe Camuncoli is bringing to the table for art, check out this preview for the Ms. Marvel Special: Storyteller one-shot released earlier this month:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1314&disp=table

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I loved that book but I don't like the interpretation of Pixie, or the apparent subject matter of the picture. Great draftmanship can't save everything, especially when in the end it's down to personal taste.

[Arion]

Ya, Astonishing just doesn't feel the same as it did with Whedon. While I like Ellis' writing and Bianchi's art, this hasn't been very interesting so far. I'll stick with it for this arc and maybe reconsider later.

The other X-books are fantastic (though I could do without Young). This kind of makes me think that they should do a bi-monthly or tri-monthly Uncanny rather than have Astonishing.

I would love to see Cassaday doing a one shot or something.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I would rather there be better art on Astonishing but Ellis is probably the smartest man writing comics today and it shows in his whacked out sci fi concepts. I'd gladly take everything he has to offer and I'd be saying that even if the other choice was a writer I liked.

[ProjectRX]

I found the first 6 issues of Exiles and the first 13 issues of Mutant X at Half Price Books for 25 cents each today, they're pretty good. I know Exiles is still rollin', but how long did Mutant X last?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I found the first 6 issues of Exiles and the first 13 issues of Mutant X at Half Price Books for 25 cents each today, they're pretty good. I know Exiles is still rollin', but how long did Mutant X last?

Mutant X ran 32 issues, with one Annual, iirc

[ProjectRX]

Thanks, Jack. About how many X-books are there now?

[SpecialK]

Thanks, Jack. About how many X-books are there now?

There are Uncanny X-Men, Astonishing X-Men, X-Men: Legacy, X-Force, X-Factor and Young X-Men.

There's also X-Men: First Class, Weapon X: First Class, Wolverine: First Class, Wolverine, Wolverine Origins, Cable, and New Exiles. Plus a few mini-series going on at the moment.

[lonesomefool]

So apparently Young X-Men has gotten good now?

I tried the first couple issues, but they were awful. Anybody back up that it has gotten really good now?

[SpecialK]

So apparently Young X-Men has gotten good now?

I tried the first couple issues, but they were awful. Anybody back up that it has gotten really good now?

I wouldn't say "really" good. It's been alright, definitely better than the first few issues.If you thought Cyclops was poorly characterized, it was because it's not him!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Young X-Men barely stays on my list month to month but I haven't dropped it like Legacy or the Wolverine books. I don't bother with the newer First Class books after my reaction to the original series. I'm usually not a continuity geek but those new costumes for X-Men First Class were such a sticking point for me that I couldn't accept the conceit the stories were continuity implants as they were claiming. That and the art in general made the series a no go for me.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

If you thought Cyclops was poorly characterized, it was because it's not him!

Well, that was blatantly obvious, I thought.

[Fake Pat]

So apparently Young X-Men has gotten good now?

I tried the first couple issues, but they were awful. Anybody back up that it has gotten really good now?

I think it's pretty dependent on the artist. I got the Oliver issues, and they were OK.

[Fake Pat]

Here's some info on the newest addition to the Uncanny line-up:
(moderate spoilers for the newest ish)

DR. NEMESIS!
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/drnemesisga.htm

Too cool. This is the kind of Fraction-y goodness I'd been waiting for.


This last Uncanny felt like a huge turn in the right direction after that first arc. Maybe Land drags the book down even more than I thought.

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Here's some info on the newest addition to the Uncanny line-up:
(moderate spoilers for the newest ish)

DR. NEMESIS!
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/drnemesisga.htm

Too cool. This is the kind of Fraction-y goodness I'd been waiting for.


This last Uncanny felt like a huge turn in the right direction after that first arc. Maybe Land drags the book down even more than I thought.

Awesome. I was hoping for that. :D

[Fake Pat]

Awesome. I was hoping for that. :D

It was awesome. His whole introduction is easily the best part of the run so far.

[costello]

So this is that Fake Pat hangout. Cool. :)

If Pat or anyone could steer me in the right direction, I'd be forever grateful. What are your thoughts on the 1982 New Mutant series? Is it worth pursuing on Ebay? My gut tells me it's a crap comic but I've been wrong before... the problem is I'm vaguely interested in the team, even after I read and sold the dreadful Fall of Mutants arc, was sorta disappointed with their involvement in Inferno, and I have tpbs that cover issue #87 (Cables 1st, but it doesn't cover the New Mutants that stay in Asgard) - #100. Am I totally nuts for pursuing this?

Also, I enjoy Uncanny X-Men, but reading X-Factor from issue 1 on and Excalibur (1st series) issue 1 on, is also a chore (until X-Factor hits the Muir Island saga).

[Fake Pat]

So this is that Fake Pat hangout. Cool. :)

If Pat or anyone could steer me in the right direction, I'd be forever grateful. What are your thoughts on the 1982 New Mutant series? Is it worth pursuing on Ebay? My gut tells me it's a crap comic but I've been wrong before... the problem is I'm vaguely interested in the team, even after I read and sold the dreadful Fall of Mutants arc, was sorta disappointed with their involvement in Inferno, and I have tpbs that cover issue #87 (Cables 1st, but it doesn't cover the New Mutants that stay in Asgard) - #100. Am I totally nuts for pursuing this?

Also, I enjoy Uncanny X-Men, but reading X-Factor from issue 1 on and Excalibur (1st series) issue 1 on, is also a chore (until X-Factor hits the Muir Island saga).

I can't comment on the entire New Mutants series, but all the Sienkiewicz issues are decent, and his first four (The Demon Bear Saga) are terrific. The annuals that Alan Davis drew and the special that Art Adams drew are also fantastic.

New Mutants Annual #3 is an all-time classic.

[costello]

I can't comment on the entire New Mutants series, but all the Sienkiewicz issues are decent, and his first four (The Demon Bear Saga) are terrific. The annuals that Alan Davis drew and the special that Art Adams drew are also fantastic.

New Mutants Annual #3 is an all-time classic.

Thanks. If the price is low enough I might give the issues a shot.

And I would pull you out of a fire before my dog. Just sayin'. :)

[HomerGator]

So.... X-Men stuff?

The new X-Force was awesome, especially the last page! I LOVE THIS BOOK. The smiley-face robots from the Right were on the cover of the first issue of X-Factor I bought (volume 1 issue 23) and I've loved them ever since. So creepy. I also can't wait to see what happens with Warpath and the Demon Bear since you-know-who is on the case.

And Secret Invasion: X-Men 4= I :heart: Cyclops

[artimoff]

Young X-Men barely stays on my list month to month but I haven't dropped it like Legacy or the Wolverine books. I don't bother with the newer First Class books after my reaction to the original series. I'm usually not a continuity geek but those new costumes for X-Men First Class were such a sticking point for me that I couldn't accept the conceit the stories were continuity implants as they were claiming. That and the art in general made the series a no go for me.


X-Men first class is the best X-Book on the stands, that is, if it wern't canceled. :cry:

[artimoff]

So this is that Fake Pat hangout. Cool. :)

If Pat or anyone could steer me in the right direction, I'd be forever grateful. What are your thoughts on the 1982 New Mutant series? Is it worth pursuing on Ebay? My gut tells me it's a crap comic but I've been wrong before... the problem is I'm vaguely interested in the team, even after I read and sold the dreadful Fall of Mutants arc, was sorta disappointed with their involvement in Inferno, and I have tpbs that cover issue #87 (Cables 1st, but it doesn't cover the New Mutants that stay in Asgard) - #100. Am I totally nuts for pursuing this?

Also, I enjoy Uncanny X-Men, but reading X-Factor from issue 1 on and Excalibur (1st series) issue 1 on, is also a chore (until X-Factor hits the Muir Island saga).

I can't comment on the entire New Mutants series, but all the Sienkiewicz issues are decent, and his first four (The Demon Bear Saga) are terrific. The annuals that Alan Davis drew and the special that Art Adams drew are also fantastic.

New Mutants Annual #3 is an all-time classic.

There are also some issues in the #40's that have the weird art team of Butch Guice & Kyle Baker. There are a few really good one-shots in that batch.

[artimoff]

This is comming out of nowhere, but...

Am I tho only one who things Marvel should have depowered Gambit on M-Day? He really seems like a character who could lose his powers & not suffer too badly.

[Fake Pat]

There are also some issues in the #40's that have the weird art team of Butch Guice & Kyle Baker. There are a few really good one-shots in that batch.

That must be some weird lookin' art.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

This is comming out of nowhere, but...

Am I tho only one who things Marvel should have depowered Gambit on M-Day? He really seems like a character who could lose his powers & not suffer too badly.

Personally, I think he should have been the character volcano surfing with Magma on M Day. I know some of y'all like him but since he came to Storm's rescue all those many years ago I have not cared for the character. Treacly romantic melodrama with Rogue did nothing to change that opinion...

[Omega Flight]

So who's looking forward to X-Men: Kingbreaker? I haven't had any exposure to Vulcan before so I'm going in new since I'm looking forward to War of Kings.

[HomerGator]

Well, I've loved everything Brubaker and Yost have done with Vulcan. I'm definitely going to be reading War of Kings. Vulcan vs Black Bolt? Are you kidding? How can you not be stoked for this?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I skipped the other Vulcan mini and I'm on the fence about Kingbreaker unless I hear something better than I have.

[SpecialK]

X-Infernus #2 cover by David Finch: http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=24492

[artimoff]

Personally, I think he should have been the character volcano surfing with Magma on M Day. I know some of y'all like him but since he came to Storm's rescue all those many years ago I have not cared for the character. Treacly romantic melodrama with Rogue did nothing to change that opinion...


Oh, I hate him too, but I think if he lost his powers it would make him a better character.

[Spidey616]

When the X-Men moved to San Fran current home of the Dreaming Celestial, it was bound to happen-Eternals vs. X-Men

http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0812/02/eternals9.jpg

Marvel Comics has released all three covers by new Eternals artist Eric Nguyen for a three-part story featuring the X-Men.

The story, written by Charles Knauf and Daniel Knauf, kicks off in Eternals #7, in stores on Jan. 7.

Here's how Marvel describes the story:

"As the Eternals wage war against each other in San Francisco, it's time for the X-Men to save the city in X-Men/Eternals: Manifest Destiny, beginning in Eternals #7! But will the X-Men join Ikaris...or battle him? Enter Eternals #7, kicking off a special three-part X-Men: Manifest Destiny tie-in storyline, as the Eternals¹ civil war goes to the next level and threatens to engulf all of the western United States!"

[HOOKS]

The return of...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x244/itshooks/marvelnewteam.jpg

[Spidey616]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm what could it mean.........;)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/107376-18351-108413-1-new-mutants_super.jpg

[billthomason]

Just read Phoenix Endsong and really enjoyed it.

Anyone want to sell me on some of the other "offshoot" Astonishing X-Men type books and solo tales?

Kitty Pryde: Shadow and Flame
Phoenix Warsong
Colossus Bloodlines
Rogue
Gambit
etc.

Basically all those X-men books that came out at the same time a few years ago.

[Spidey616]

Besides Bendis and Jim Cheung's Avengers title, looks like Marvel will also be putting out a Wolverine one by the great Fred Van Lente and Gurihiru (from Power Pack fame) called "Origin of an X-Man" Nice Ed McGuinness cover

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fcbdwolv001_dc11.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Not the biggest McGuiness fan but that is a really nice drawing of early Wolverine. Gotta say tho' that I'm looking forward to the Cheung drawn one more than this, nearlya s much as Land's X-Men debut last year. 'Course, I usually skip FCBD so that people who need convincing to read it can have an issue and just buy it when Marvel releases them later in the year if it's a book I'm reading anyways...

[Marcdachamp]

Besides Bendis and Jim Cheung's Avengers title, looks like Marvel will also be putting out a Wolverine one by the great Fred Van Lente and Gurihiru (from Power Pack fame) called "Origin of an X-Man" Nice Ed McGuinness cover

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/fcbdwolv001_dc11.jpg

A) That is AWESOME. The ears should be a LITTLE shorter, but I love the whiskers. Marvel times these things so well. Very smart.

B) There's a Bendis/Cheung FBCD giveaway? Did I miss a memo?

[Spidey616]

The next major X Event has been revealed- MESSIAH WAR! A crossover between X-Force and Cable beginning in March. :cool:

Kyle/Yost/Choi Talk "Messiah War" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19158)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/messiahwar/XFCABMW001_cov-prev.jpg

[SpecialK]

The next major X Event has been revealed- MESSIAH WAR! A crossover between X-Force and Cable beginning in March. :cool:

Who did that cover? And where's Warpath?!?! Reading article now.

[Saul T. Dog]

kaare andrews judging by the sig

[NickT]

This is comming out of nowhere, but...

Am I tho only one who things Marvel should have depowered Gambit on M-Day? He really seems like a character who could lose his powers & not suffer too badly.
I agree, he's someone who could be powerless and still carry on like before.

[NickT]

The next major X Event has been revealed- MESSIAH WAR! A crossover between X-Force and Cable beginning in March. :cool:

Kyle/Yost/Choi Talk "Messiah War" (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19158)


I hate full-on crossovers :(


This one annoys me moreso because I buy X-Force at one shop, and Cable at a shop that's a bit behind :(

[John Drake]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm what could it mean.........;)

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/107376-18351-108413-1-new-mutants_super.jpg

I really like Cannonball as part of the X-Men, so I hope it's not that.

[NickT]

I really like Cannonball as part of the X-Men, so I hope it's not that.
It would seem to be a bit of a step back to me. He goes from the new kids to the full team and then back to the new kids but a bit older?

[SpecialK]

I hate full-on crossovers :(


This one annoys me moreso because I buy X-Force at one shop, and Cable at a shop that's a bit behind :(

Why do you buy them at different shops?

For crossovers, I've only been around for Messiah Complex and Original Sin, which I didn't mind because I was buying the titles. But for the Secret Invasion X-Factor/She-Hulk, I had to pick up the She-Hulk issues just for that. :sad:

[NickT]

Why do you buy them at different shops?

For crossovers, I've only been around for Messiah Complex and Original Sin, which I didn't mind because I was buying the titles. But for the Secret Invasion X-Factor/She-Hulk, I had to pick up the She-Hulk issues just for that. :sad:
One is slightly cheaper, the other was my original comic shop. Also the second one is a proper comic shop, the other is a shop that sells many things including comics, so I want to support it in some way.

I buy most books at the cheaper shop, but I have a pull with some titles at the other. Cable is one of them (Punisher, Teen TItans IIRC, Ultimates, Hawaiian Dick, some others).


My usual crossover attitude is to just buy the issues I get anyway, and if I'm not enjoying it either leave the books I read until it ends or just drop the book. With Messiah Complex I picked up all the issues because I was already reading three of them, adding New X-Men wasn't quite as bad.


I'd rather read a standalone mini or have it as an arc in one book. Not only do you have to pick up extra books, but also the jumping creative teams can be quite jarring. I also kindof feel like they contain more fluff than were it a standard arc, but that might just be me.

[John Drake]

It would seem to be a bit of a step back to me. He goes from the new kids to the full team and then back to the new kids but a bit older?

Exactly. Kinda like what I'm guessing will happening with Wally West.

[NickT]

Exactly. Kinda like what I'm guessing will happening with Wally West.And I bet they'll get rid of his goggles too!

[John Drake]

And I bet they'll get rid of his goggles too!

And cut his hair!

[NickT]

And cut his hair!
And give him those stupid ears back!

[SpecialK]

Since I have yet to see them posted:

X-Men Legacy 219 preview, with lengthy Mike Carey interview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19145)
Deadpool 5 preview (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1598&disp=table)
X-Men: Kingbreaker 1 preview (http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=24757)

[Fake Pat]

If they can keep it together on the art side (meaning it's all Crain/Choi/Olivetti), I am gonna be so into this.

Overall, Messiah Complex was a really excellent crossover, and I think this one has the potential to be pretty close in quality.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

This crossover will probably be the only issues of Cable I will ever buy.

[Matthew Brown]

I've missed Carey's Rogue. Looking forward to Salvage.

[John Drake]

And give him those stupid ears back!

And...the costume! :Panic:

[MabusRex]

I'll miss "Huggernaut". :( I shall purchase X-Men: Legacy with a heavy heart.

Look forward to the crossover though! <3

[NickT]

And...the costume! :Panic:
Yeah, Cannonball was SHIT! ;)

[SpecialK]

X-Men March Solicits
WARNING: Major spoilers for X-Infernus and stuff
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19164

[Fake Pat]

What the hell is up with McNiven?

2 issues from now til at least April? Weak.

[Marcdachamp]

I'll miss "Huggernaut". :( I shall purchase X-Men: Legacy with a heavy heart.

Look forward to the crossover though! <3

Do we really know he's changing back? :sad:

[Howlett]

Do we really know he's changing back? :sad:

Apparently, Carey has stated that he really didn't like how Juggernaut became good and joined the X-Men. So I'm guessing yeah, we're losing the personality we've gotten for the last few years and getting back the uberly three dimensional "NOTHING STOP THE JUGGERNAUT!" Juggie again :?

I've loved Carey's X-Men run so far, but if he goes this route with Cain, I'm going to be really fucking pissed. Juggernaut reforming was one of the best things to happen to that character.

[Marcdachamp]

Apparently, Carey has stated that he really didn't like how Juggernaut became good and joined the X-Men. So I'm guessing yeah, we're losing the personality we've gotten for the last few years and getting back the uberly three dimensional "NOTHING STOP THE JUGGERNAUT!" Juggie again :?

I've loved Carey's X-Men run so far, but if he goes this route with Cain, I'm going to be really fucking pissed. Juggernaut reforming was one of the best things to happen to that character.

It's the biggest problem with the X-Books. A writer comes along, shakes things up and the next one feels the need to revert back to the status quo. I know that's comics in general, but the X-Books are one of the worst offenders.

[HOOKS]

I'll miss "Huggernaut". :( I shall purchase X-Men: Legacy with a heavy heart.

Huggernaut was the best thing Chuck Austen did, with credit to Fabian Nicieza for lighting the match on this new direction back during the X-MEN FOREVER series.

It made sense for him not to be a one-dimensional thug. It was a long process of reform for the character, and while he was never an angel, there is really no reason for him to do the "tried it, didn't like it" route.

There aren't many villain characters that can reform convincingly, but Juggernaut was a rare exception.

Ah well.

[Howlett]

It's the biggest problem with the X-Books. A writer comes along, shakes things up and the next one feels the need to revert back to the status quo. I know that's comics in general, but the X-Books are one of the worst offenders.

I think Spider-Man and the DCU top X-Books in that regard, but that's neither here nor there :lol:

But yes, you are right on the rest. And it pisses me off. Juggernaut became one of my favourite X-Men, and he was the only character outside of Northstar that Chuck Austen did anything worth a damn with. Seeing this probably being reset really bothers me. Especially considering how much Carey seems to go out of his way to tie the history of the books together.

I mean, he had Amanda Mueller from the Gambit ongoing in it. I loved that series and I forgot all about her! :lol:

[Marcdachamp]

Huggernaut was the best thing Chuck Austen did, with credit to Fabian Nicieza for lighting the match on this new direction back during the X-MEN FOREVER series.

Agreed, although She Lies with Angels and his follow-up to Morrison's run were also both great.

Wolverine vs. Xavier over burying Magneto was powerful stuff. I liked Wolverine's look with the Morrison jacket and the costume top underneath, too. I thought it was a great mix between the looks.

I would have liked it if Cyclops had permanently switched back to the Morrison look, too. That page in Astonishing where he's holding the gun without the visor on was just out of this world. Cassaday killed on it.

[HOOKS]

I wish they never got rid of the Morrison look for any of the characters.

[Howlett]

Agreed, although She Lies with Angels and his follow-up to Morrison's run were also both great.

:neutral:

Et tu, Marcdachamp? Et tu?

[Marcdachamp]

:neutral:

Et tu, Marcdachamp? Et tu?

Which are you commenting on? :lol:

She Lies with Angels took a few issues to sell me on, but I thought the ending was great. Jay being unable to kill himself was really powerful.

Also, I feel like I could give that trade to a non-comics fan and they'd be able to enjoy it. That's pretty rare for an X-Book, although Whedon and Cassaday's run could also probably work.

[Howlett]

Which are you commenting on? :lol:

She Lies with Angels took a few issues to sell me on, but I thought the ending was great. Jay being unable to kill himself was really powerful.

Also, I feel like I could give that trade to a non-comics fan and they'd be able to enjoy it. That's pretty rare for an X-Book, although Whedon and Cassaday's run could also probably work.

I have never met a single person... comic fan or non... who has read that story and not thought it was complete and utter garbage. Their words, not mine* :lol:

Had anyone else written it, I would've been annoyed at yet another Romeo&Juliet story. 'Cause we never have enough of those. But I'd have accepted it. Austen writing romance never worked though. Not once.

It's cool though. We'll always have Cybertron :cool:








*My words involve more swearing... :shifty:

[HOOKS]

I have never met a single person... comic fan or non... who has read that story and not thought it was complete and utter garbage. Their words, not mine* :lol:

Add one more to the list!

SHE LIES WITH ANGELS was fucking garbage.

We'll always have Cybertron

While CYBERTRON was better than ENERGON (the only Transformers series to actually put me to sleep during a new airing), it still falls towards the middle-to-bottom of TF series.

My order:

1: BEAST WARS
2: GENERATION ONE (primarily for seasons one and especially three; I hate season two)
3 and 4: ANIMATED / BEAST MACHINES (TIE - both series target wholly different audiences, and I enjoy both for different reasons, so it really depends on which day you ask me if I put one over the other)
5: CYBERTRON
6: ARMADA
7: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
8: ALL FUTURE TRANSFORMERS SERIES THAT HAVE YET TO BE CREATED YET AND THUS CANNOT BE JUDGED









































Eleventy Billion: ENERGON.

[John Drake]

Future X-Men spoilers:

X-MEN: QUITTING TIME
Written by JAMES ASMUS
Penciled by TBD
Cover by BRANDON PETERSON
Since the move to San Francisco and after the events of X-Infernus, Nightcrawler realizes a hard truth—he has to quit the X-Men. Kurt has realized that the X-Men just don’t need him anymore. He hasn’t been operating at his highest levels and even the biggest strength he has—teleportation—has been made redundant by Pixie who can do it better and more efficiently. Don’t miss the departure of one of the most important characters in X-Men history.
32 PGS./One-Shot/Rated T+ …$3.99

:sad:

[Howlett]

Add one more to the list!

SHE LIES WITH ANGELS was fucking garbage.



While CYBERTRON was better than ENERGON (the only Transformers series to actually put me to sleep during a new airing), it still falls towards the middle-to-bottom of TF series.

My order:

1: BEAST WARS
2: GENERATION ONE (primarily for seasons one and especially three; I hate season two)
3 and 4: ANIMATED / BEAST MACHINES (TIE - both series target wholly different audiences, and I enjoy both for different reasons, so it really depends on which day you ask me if I put one over the other)
5: CYBERTRON
6: ARMADA
7: ROBOTS IN DISGUISE
8: ALL FUTURE TRANSFORMERS SERIES THAT HAVE YET TO BE CREATED YET AND THUS CANNOT BE JUDGED









































Eleventy Billion: ENERGON.

*adds HOOKS to the list* :cool:

.... uh, I meant the planet. Not the show! Good god, Transformers as a show ceased to exist between the end of Beast Machines and the start of Animated.

Everything that would be in the middle... if they existed... are relegated to the same plane of existence that Highlander 2 and 3, and the Catwoman movie reside in.

Or would. If they existed. Which they don't. They never happened.

NEVER! HAPPENED!

[Howlett]

Future X-Men spoilers:



:sad:

:(

[John Drake]

:(

Honestly,
I don't think I like Pixie being a better teleporter.

[Howlett]

Honestly,
I don't think I like Pixie...

Fixed. FIXED!!! :mad:

[John Drake]

Fixed. FIXED!!! :mad:

:lol: I think she's okay, but the way she's being "promoted" is a little annoying.

[Howlett]

:lol: I think she's okay, but...

AH! Nyah! STOP right there... yer already on thin ice as it is with me, fella :mad:

[John Drake]

AH! Nyah! STOP right there... yer already on thin ice as it is with me, fella :mad:

Iceman rocks :D

[SpecialK]

Fixed. FIXED!!! :mad:

I liked her in Fraction's first arc on Uncanny, but not anywhere else.

[Howlett]

Iceman rocks :D
Better.
I liked her in Fraction's first arc on Uncanny, but not anywhere else.

I don't think I've been able to stand her for any longer than a panel or two in any book since New X-Men. Porno-face Pixie from the first Uncanny arc least of all... god, I tingled when she got bonked across the head with a baseball bat.

[Marcdachamp]

*adds HOOKS to the list* :cool:

.... uh, I meant the planet. Not the show! Good god, Transformers as a show ceased to exist between the end of Beast Machines and the start of Animated.

Everything that would be in the middle... if they existed... are relegated to the same plane of existence that Highlander 2 and 3, and the Catwoman movie reside in.

Or would. If they existed. Which they don't. They never happened.

NEVER! HAPPENED!

It's funny, I was gonna make a joke about how Cybertron sucked, but Hooks thought that was what you actually meant. So, I was beaten to the punch, but not really. :lol:

I love Armada, though. It's my guilty pleasure of the various Transformers series'. Energon was a mess, but Armada really got its shit together as the show went on. I love, love, LOVE Armada Wheeljack.

I'm starting to cave on Animated figures. I've been holding strong, because a lot of my Transformers end up boxed up, or given away. I'm only at two right now (3 if you count McDonald's Lugnut) with Bumblebee (he came in the awesome Legacy 3-Pack) and Swoop, but I'm sold on Samurai Prowl, Waspinator, Wreck Gar, Hot Shot and possibly Red Alert (depending on how closely they resemble their Armada counterparts). I'm also leaning towards Prime, Swindle (loved the recent comic he was in) and Slag (I'm not calling him Snarl, fuck that). I'll skip Grimlock, because I'm buying the Masterpiece figure.

[HOOKS]

.... uh, I meant the planet. Not the show!

It's funny, I was gonna make a joke about how Cybertron sucked, but Hooks thought that was what you actually meant.

:Oops:

[Howlett]

:Oops:

Don't worry. Have a beer :beer:

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Future X-Men spoilers:



:sad:

Noooo!

[The Jack Rabbitt]

Just read X-Force 9

Never thought I'd see...the motherfucking Right, again!

[Clintro]

Okay so its been 5 or 6 issues since Uncanny 500 has it been a good read? I picked 500 up because it was supposed to be a good spot to get back on but I couldn't really get into it. Also is Fraction the only writer on the book or is Brubaker still contributing?

[Howlett]

Okay so its been 5 or 6 issues since Uncanny 500 has it been a good read? I picked 500 up because it was supposed to be a good spot to get back on but I couldn't really get into it. Also is Fraction the only writer on the book or is Brubaker still contributing?

I thought issue 500 was hands down, one of the worst comics I've ever had the displeasure of ever being subjected to.

And I'm a whore for X-Men comics.

Everything since 500 has been pretty bloody solid though.

[SpecialK]

Okay so its been 5 or 6 issues since Uncanny 500 has it been a good read? I picked 500 up because it was supposed to be a good spot to get back on but I couldn't really get into it. Also is Fraction the only writer on the book or is Brubaker still contributing?

I've enjoyed it, but not overly enjoyed it. I believe that the plan is for Brubaker to write the next arc, and for them to alternate.

[Fake Pat]

Okay so its been 5 or 6 issues since Uncanny 500 has it been a good read? I picked 500 up because it was supposed to be a good spot to get back on but I couldn't really get into it. Also is Fraction the only writer on the book or is Brubaker still contributing?

I'm a pretty massive whore for Fraction, but it's been middling at best.

The art's hurting it. Even the Dodson stuff. It's head and shoulders above Land, but it just doesn't jive well with the writing. I'm hanging on for the annual and the end of the current arc, but unless it gets a bit better, I'm done.

[Fake Pat]

I've enjoyed it, but not overly enjoyed it. I believe that the plan is for Brubaker to write the next arc, and for them to alternate.

I don't think that's the plan anymore.

I wouldn't expect to see Brubaker credited as the main writer anytime soon, if ever.

[Clintro]

I thought issue 500 was hands down, one of the worst comics I've ever had the displeasure of ever being subjected to.

And I'm a whore for X-Men comics.

Everything since 500 has been pretty bloody solid though.

Thank god I'm not alone. I used to be a huge X-men whore and heard that that issue was a good place to start again but I thought it was terrible.

Also there's no official sign that Bru is done?

[The Jack Rabbitt]

I've been rather enjoying Uncanny of late.

[Howlett]

Thank god I'm not alone. I used to be a huge X-men whore and heard that that issue was a good place to start again but I thought it was terrible.

Also there's no official sign that Bru is done?

Ooooh trust me, you weren't alone ---> http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=4995206&postcount=2

Nothing saying he's leaving yet. Everything so far is stating that he's rotating with Fraction. Until he himself or Marvel release something to say otherwise, he's still co-writer.

[Clintro]

Ooooh trust me, you weren't alone ---> http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=4995206&postcount=2

Nothing saying he's leaving yet. Everything so far is stating that he's rotating with Fraction. Until he himself or Marvel release something to say otherwise, he's still co-writer.

Wow man you ripped that a new one. :-)

[Fake Pat]

Ooooh trust me, you weren't alone ---> http://www.606studios.com/bendisboard/showpost.php?p=4995206&postcount=2

Nothing saying he's leaving yet. Everything so far is stating that he's rotating with Fraction. Until he himself or Marvel release something to say otherwise, he's still co-writer.

That's what they've been saying. They also said it would be Fraction with Land and Brubaker with Dodson rotating arcs.

We've seen 2 arcs already, and both artists, but no Bru. I'd be surprised if it happened at this point.

[Howlett]

Wow man you ripped that a new one. :-)

I was a little irked after reading the book. I'll admit it :lol:

[Clintro]

That's what they've been saying. They also said it would be Fraction with Land and Brubaker with Dodson rotating arcs.

We've seen 2 arcs already, and both artists, but no Bru. I'd be surprised if it happened at this point.

I just thought I read a solicit somewhere that said "now with Fraction on writing duties alone" or something like that.

[Clintro]

Okay so Uncanny seems to be winning people over but, hows X-Men Legacy?

Forgive my constant question I've been in a mood to read some X-Men books of late.

[Omega Flight]

Thank god I'm not alone. I used to be a huge X-men whore and heard that that issue was a good place to start again but I thought it was terrible.

Also there's no official sign that Bru is done?

The issues with Dodson I have no complaints about. Even though there isn't as much action I'm really enjoying it.

[Howlett]

Okay so Uncanny seems to be winning people over but, hows X-Men Legacy?

Forgive my constant question I've been in a mood to read some X-Men books of late.

I'll answer this, and the next few questions you'll probably have, Qustion Asker McQuestioner :mad:

:p

X-Men Legacy - Damn good book. Some great shout-outs to x-history, and a bloody decent Professor X story. The recent crossover with Wolverine Origins, plus the lead up, was very enjoyable.

Astonishing X-Men - :neutral: ........ let's move on, shall we? :nonono2:

X-Men: Manifest Destiny - Pretty good short stories setting up certain characters new status quo in San Francisco. Also has a Mike Carey Iceman/ Mystique story running in it that'll be followed up on in Legacy I believe.

X-Infernus - Mini about Illyanna Rasputin, following up on the New X-Men arc from last year. Don't think it's essential reading, but it's fairly decent so far, and it's going to set up some things for Nightcrawler.

Wolverine - Good, but completely avoidable at the moment, since it's just an alternate history thing that'll most likely never get mentioned again.

Wolverine Origins - I've enjoyed it from the start, though it was a bit slow. Really loving it since Daken became more prominant.

Wolverine: Manifest Destiny - Basically the present day stories, since the main book is tied up with future stuff. Excellent read which will be followed up on in some ways in Jason Aaron's Weapon X book.

X-Force - Surprisingly excellent book. Very bloody, very dark, but very funny in places. Basically an X-Men wetworks unit. Like Legacy, draws heavily on x-history.

X-Factor - Back to being a great book again, after a slight bump with a recent artist. This book is actually making Longshot cool... which I never thought could happen :scared:

Cable - Surprisingly good, but again, slow. Has one of the best Cyclops stories that's been out in recent years though. The upcoming sequel to Messiah Complex (Messiah War) will be a crossover between this and X-Force.

Deadpool - Funniest damn book on the stands at the moment.

[costello]

My comic shop had a sale on back issues so I bought some X-Annuals from 1991. Each bleeds into the other: New Mutants --> New Warriors --> X-Men --> X-Factor. Damn I loved these stories as a kid. The team ups were so much fun.

[Clintro]

I'll answer this, and the next few questions you'll probably have, Qustion Asker McQuestioner :mad:

:p

X-Men Legacy - Damn good book. Some great shout-outs to x-history, and a bloody decent Professor X story. The recent crossover with Wolverine Origins, plus the lead up, was very enjoyable.

Astonishing X-Men - :neutral: ........ let's move on, shall we? :nonono2:

X-Men: Manifest Destiny - Pretty good short stories setting up certain characters new status quo in San Francisco. Also has a Mike Carey Iceman/ Mystique story running in it that'll be followed up on in Legacy I believe.

X-Infernus - Mini about Illyanna Rasputin, following up on the New X-Men arc from last year. Don't think it's essential reading, but it's fairly decent so far, and it's going to set up some things for Nightcrawler.

Wolverine - Good, but completely avoidable at the moment, since it's just an alternate history thing that'll most likely never get mentioned again.

Wolverine Origins - I've enjoyed it from the start, though it was a bit slow. Really loving it since Daken became more prominant.

Wolverine: Manifest Destiny - Basically the present day stories, since the main book is tied up with future stuff. Excellent read which will be followed up on in some ways in Jason Aaron's Weapon X book.

X-Force - Surprisingly excellent book. Very bloody, very dark, but very funny in places. Basically an X-Men wetworks unit. Like Legacy, draws heavily on x-history.

X-Factor - Back to being a great book again, after a slight bump with a recent artist. This book is actually making Longshot cool... which I never thought could happen :scared:

Cable - Surprisingly good, but again, slow. Has one of the best Cyclops stories that's been out in recent years though. The upcoming sequel to Messiah Complex (Messiah War) will be a crossover between this and X-Force.

Deadpool - Funniest damn book on the stands at the moment.


Really Cable has a good Cyclops story?

Based on this I think I may give Legacy a try. Thanks for the run down. I'll try and lay off the questions now. :-)

[Howlett]

Really Cable has a good Cyclops story?

Based on this I think I may give Legacy a try. Thanks for the run down. I'll try and lay off the questions now. :-)

Issue 6. Though Cyke's a recurring character, and not a bad one (is he ever these days?). Definitely worth checking out that issue though.

Hope you enjoy Legacy. I believe the book is getting another title and direction change later in the year, so the Baldy X story is almost done.

And it's cool. Was just fuckin' around :D

[NickT]

Hope you enjoy Legacy. I believe the book is getting another title and direction change later in the year, so the Baldy X story is almost done.

Think I heard #225 is the new direction.

[Clintro]

Issue 6. Though Cyke's a recurring character, and not a bad one (is he ever these days?). Definitely worth checking out that issue though.

Hope you enjoy Legacy. I believe the book is getting another title and direction change later in the year, so the Baldy X story is almost done.

And it's cool. Was just fuckin' around :D

Thanks for all the info though, I know that was a lot of abuse to your "x" key :-)

I'm a huge Cyclops fan so I'll definitely have to check out that issue.

[Ryan F]

Issue 6. Though Cyke's a recurring character, and not a bad one (is he ever these days?). Definitely worth checking out that issue though.

Hope you enjoy Legacy. I believe the book is getting another title and direction change later in the year, so the Baldy X story is almost done.

And it's cool. Was just fuckin' around :D

Cable is one of my favorite comics right now, and I'm not a fan of the character. Cyke is great in that book.

[NickT]

Cable is one of my favorite comics right now, and I'm not a fan of the character. Cyke is great in that book.
Book feels like aWestern, and he works for it.

[HomerGator]

I think X-Factor, X-Men: Legacy, Uncanny X-Men, Wolverine: Origins, Wolverine, Deadpool, Cable, X-Force, and Astonishing X-Men are all as strong as a collective group as the X-titles have ever been, to be honest. Well, maybe slightly behind the New Mutants/Uncanny X-Men/X-Factor era in the '80s, but really damn good.

OH! And I can't forget the stories featuring the new Starjammers and the mad emporer Vulcan. Gooooood stuff from Chris Yost, who is quickly becoming one of my favorite writers in all of comics.

[Spidey616]

Chris Yost was on this week's X-Position with some sweet previews of Kingbreaker and X-Force #10

X-Position: Christopher Yost (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19278)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010002_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010003_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010004_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010005_col.jpg

[Clintro]

So I just got done catching up on Uncanny and it was a good read. I should have stuck around after 500.

[marco19]

looks like we will definitly be getting a NEW NEW MUTANTS Book sometime in 2009, as in the recent print edition of Marvel Previews it Says that YOUNG X-Men is officially canceled as of issue # 12

[rwsmith]

Chris Yost was on this week's X-Position with some sweet previews of Kingbreaker and X-Force #10

X-Position: Christopher Yost (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=19278)

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010002_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010003_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010004_col.jpg

http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/previews/marvelcomics/xmen/kingbreaker/XFORCE010005_col.jpg

God bless America!!! Those are some amazing pages by Choi! And I don't care if they take Wolverine out of every other team book he appears in, he had better never leave this one. He is perfect as the leader of this new down and dirty X-Force squad IMO.

[MabusRex]

I love those pages except for one little thing...Warren's not grey, he's blue!

Still, wonder what this development means for X-23?

God, I love this book...

[Spidey616]

looks like we will definitly be getting a NEW NEW MUTANTS Book sometime in 2009, as in the recent print edition of Marvel Previews it Says that YOUNG X-Men is officially canceled as of issue # 12

Wow. I admit, it wasn't my favorite X Book out there, but was steadily improving. But if it means bringing back New Mutants......:)