The Official X-Men & Friends Thread!

[rwsmith]

That's what I figured, but never hurts to ask.


They really should give Cable his psionic powers back. They don't have any male telepaths anymore not named Xavier.

Cable has low-level telekinesis but no telepathy. Duane Swiercynski said so in an interview on CBR awhile back, and we also saw him use it to save himself and the baby in the last issue when Bishop dropped a truck on him. That blue glow around him as he pulled himself out from under the wreckage was his TK protecting him.

[Arion]

X-Factor # 31

Enjoyable, as Arcade stories usually are especially when they keep his appearances so smartly infrequent. I'm gonna miss Pablo Raimondi though as i'm not too excited about Larry Stroman's upcoming return to the title to be honest. Plus Layla Miller can't return fast enough in my books.



Pablo Raimondi was a great artist for X-Factor, it will be sad to see him leave after less than two years.

[HOOKS]

So next week's a huge week for the X-books.

Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men #1 - Whedon and Cassaday's final issue
Uncanny X-Men #498 - Brubaker and Choi's penultimate Divided We Stand story
X-Force Vol 3 #4 - Pretty much the all-out winner coming out of Messiah Complex
X-Force Legacy Of Vengeance One Shot - Jason Aaron, nuff said
X-Men Legacy #212 - Gambit's return as a hero, after over two years of being with the Marauders

And then you have both First Class books out next week, Wolverine First Class #3 and X-Men First Class Vol 2 #12, along with Warren Worthington's origins in Angel Revelations #1 and New Warriors #12, for those who want to see what Jubilee, Chamber and former New X-Men members have been up to.

Busy week!

[rwsmith]

The X-Force: Legacy of Vengeance thing is just one of these reprints of the first 3 issues of X-Force. The one-shot with a Warpath back-up story written by Jason Aaron is called X-Force: Ain't No Dog and it's out in June. The primary story is a Wolverine one written by Charlie Huston.

Just thought I'd clarify for you. It does look like a great week to be an X-men fan, though! :)

[markgrayson]

The X-Force: Legacy of Vengeance thing is just one of these reprints of the first 3 issues of X-Force. The one-shot with a Warpath back-up story written by Jason Aaron is called X-Force: Ain't No Dog and it's out in June. The primary story is a Wolverine one written by Charlie Huston.

Just thought I'd clarify for you. It does look like a great week to be an X-men fan, though! :)

Now I don't know if I should wait for the X-Force trade, or get this and #4. Help!!

[rwsmith]

If you're impatient like I am, then I'd go ahead and get that and #4. X-Force is the best series to come out of Messiah Complex hands down IMO. Everything else (Cable, Young X-men, X-men: Legacy) is pretty lackluster, but this new incarnation of X-Force is bad-freakin'-ass!

[Vonn Hennigar]

Nods head.

X-Force has been shockingly good with more old school goodness than you can shake a stick at.

Now about those costumes and god-awful red eyes...

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Yeah, other than the art, I've been more than pleasantly surprised by X-Force

[NickT]

Nods head.

X-Force has been shockingly good with more old school goodness than you can shake a stick at.

Now about those costumes and god-awful red eyes...
I like the costumes. Individual yet unique.


I'm still undecided on it. The continuity stuff isnt doing anything for me since I wasn't around back then, but it's been a good ride so far. It's just one of those books where it could go off the rails at any time. We shall see, I'm hopefull :)

[Arion]

So next week's a huge week for the X-books.

Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men #1 - Whedon and Cassaday's final issue
Uncanny X-Men #498 - Brubaker and Choi's penultimate Divided We Stand story
X-Force Vol 3 #4 - Pretty much the all-out winner coming out of Messiah Complex
X-Force Legacy Of Vengeance One Shot - Jason Aaron, nuff said
X-Men Legacy #212 - Gambit's return as a hero, after over two years of being with the Marauders

Busy week!

I can't wait for Giant-Size Astonishing X-Men .

[Glixy]

Yeah, I'd get that digest X-force. This is the kinda book where singles are more fun than a collected edition. They've left it on cool cliffhangers the first few issues.

[rwsmith]

I'm still wanting to know if that "Marvel Boy" rumor about a more militant, earlier version of Cable showing up and joining X-Force is true. Probably B.S., but if true that could be the thing that sends this series completely "off the rails" (as someone else put it), or it could be completely bad ass if done right.

Probably not true at all, though.

[HOOKS]

MAGNETO'S RAGE!

Written by ?
Art by Mike Perkins

We're staying tight-lipped about exactly WHAT this project is, but if this Mike Perkins [sorry, Mike, we were so excited by the image we forgot the s!] cover doesn't tantalize your senses, leaving you thirsting for details...then you're crazy.

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/3693new_storyimage1900098_full.jpg

[HomerGator]

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't be long before we got some Magneto goodness. I hope it's Brubaker or Carey (actually, I hope more that it's Carey) writing it!

It will be nice if they finally give us a good Magneto story again, rather than the tripe we've been given (for the most part) ever since... shit, since Eve of Destruction almost a decade ago!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I'm still wanting to know if that "Marvel Boy" rumor about a more militant, earlier version of Cable showing up and joining X-Force is true. Probably B.S., but if true that could be the thing that sends this series completely "off the rails" (as someone else put it), or it could be completely bad ass if done right.

Probably not true at all, though.

It kind would make corporate sense. You have the X-Man character that fits this bill that some X-Fans would like returned to prominence in the MU so of course they'd go with a younger version of Cable. It's a done deal.

[rwsmith]

It kind would make corporate sense. You have the X-Man character that fits this bill that some X-Fans would like returned to prominence in the MU so of course they'd go with a younger version of Cable. It's a done deal.

Oh, I hope it's not X-man, actually. The original "Marvel Boy" rumor specifically said that it was Cable, just an earlier version that is more militant like he was when he first appeared on the scene in the late 80's/early 90's.

As for X-man, I heard an entirely different rumor about him being brought back by Warren Ellis in his Astonishing X-men run. Which would make more sense than the "prior version of Cable in X-Force" rumor actually.

Perhaps that's what's happening and Marvel Boy just got confused? Or he was fed disinformation so that the powers that be at Marvel could ferret him out. ;-)

[NickT]

MAGNETO'S RAGE!

Written by ?
Art by Mike Perkins

We're staying tight-lipped about exactly WHAT this project is, but if this Mike Perkins [sorry, Mike, we were so excited by the image we forgot the s!] cover doesn't tantalize your senses, leaving you thirsting for details...then you're crazy.

http://www.marvel.com/i/content/st/3693new_storyimage1900098_full.jpg
I hope he doesn't use that costume. I like the movie-style look he sometimes rocked, as opposed to the muscleman with his underwear on the outside look.

[markgrayson]

So I was checkin' out the Daniel Way article on CBR, and does anyone else think Yu may be the new artist on Wolverine: Origins? Here's a preview and the link to the story.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16572

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/chrispowell_2008/random/WOLORIG026021_1001.jpg

[Vonn Hennigar]

So I was checkin' out the Daniel Way article on CBR, and does anyone else think Yu may be the new artist on Wolverine: Origins? Here's a preview and the link to the story.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16572

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/chrispowell_2008/random/WOLORIG026021_1001.jpg

Not a chance, those pages are from Wolverine Origins # 26 which according to the solicts are by Stephen Segovia.

[VoicesOffCamera]

Oh, I hope it's not X-man, actually. The original "Marvel Boy" rumor specifically said that it was Cable, just an earlier version that is more militant like he was when he first appeared on the scene in the late 80's/early 90's.

As for X-man, I heard an entirely different rumor about him being brought back by Warren Ellis in his Astonishing X-men run. Which would make more sense than the "prior version of Cable in X-Force" rumor actually.

Perhaps that's what's happening and Marvel Boy just got confused? Or he was fed disinformation so that the powers that be at Marvel could ferret him out. ;-)

I never heard the Astonishing/X-Man rumor, but that would make some sense considering Ellis wrote the character's final adventures.

[Vonn Hennigar]

I picked up the Messiah Complex HC today, damn is it gorgeous. Less gorgeous is The Complete Onslaught Epic Book 2 with Bandana Wolverine on the cover :( It contains mostly one-shot storys around the Marvel U of the time (Amazing,Sensational,Spider-Man,Green Goblin, Wolverine etc etc) I don't think i've read any of these.

Pray For Me.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I never heard the Astonishing/X-Man rumor, but that would make some sense considering Ellis wrote the character's final adventures.


While I would prefer never to see the X-Shaman take ever again, if it put Nate back in play I'd gladly accept it.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

So I was checkin' out the Daniel Way article on CBR, and does anyone else think Yu may be the new artist on Wolverine: Origins? Here's a preview and the link to the story.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16572

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm136/chrispowell_2008/random/WOLORIG026021_1001.jpg

I thought that the art had too much of a Byrne flair to it to be Yu. I liked that art too much for it to be Yu. I did like him on that Superman story but not the New Avengers stuff that looked drawn by a Sharpie(tm). Secret Invasion has been a nice step in the right direction with an inker but when I think Yu I still think Sharpie(tm) and not the beauty I know the artist is capable of.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Just read X-Men 212 and UXM 498. They were both fucking awesome.
I am so damn happy with these two books right now.

[Arion]

Yeah, I figured it wouldn't be long before we got some Magneto goodness. I hope it's Brubaker or Carey (actually, I hope more that it's Carey) writing it!

It will be nice if they finally give us a good Magneto story again, rather than the tripe we've been given (for the most part) ever since... shit, since Eve of Destruction almost a decade ago!

Eve of Destruction was in 2000 or 2001, right?

[Glixy]

I thought that the art had too much of a Byrne flair to it to be Yu. I liked that art too much for it to be Yu. I did like him on that Superman story but not the New Avengers stuff that looked drawn by a Sharpie(tm). Secret Invasion has been a nice step in the right direction with an inker but when I think Yu I still think Sharpie(tm) and not the beauty I know the artist is capable of.

I know this is crazy, but that art has a MAJOR Jim Lee vibe going on. I'm positive he is not penciling Wolvie: Origins, but that looks a TON like his wolvie.

Also...

I dropped UXM today, but ADORED xmen Legacy and xforce for whatever thats worth.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I dropped UXM today, but ADORED xmen Legacy and xforce for whatever thats worth.

UXM was fantastic this week, imo. :D

[Ryan F]

Is it cheating if I cut/paste reviews from my bought/thought post?

Giant Size Astonishing X-Men #1 - A nice conclusion, but I felt that Cassaday's usually brilliant storytelling was a little muddled. I'm not really sure what the ending accomplishes either. Overall, I'd have to rate Whedon's run as a bit of a disappointment. 7/10

Uncanny X-Men #498 - Continues to be a nice solid performer with great art. There's nothing special about either of the two stories, but at least they're fun. 8/10

X-Men Legacy #212 - Aha, the plot! This book is starting to get real interesting - there's some bona fide intrigue and some action as well. I hope Rogue shows up soon; I don't think Xavier and Gambit can carry a book by themselves. 8/10

X-Force #4 - This is what I was afraid of; we're officially on the train to emo-land. Yost and Kyle are great storytellers, but they really like the pain, huh? I loved what the purifiers were doing, and I enjoyed Logan's outburst - a genuinely good character moment. What's happening to Rahne and Warren I am not so fond of... 4/10

[Glixy]

UXM was fantastic this week, imo. :D

:(, really? I've been totally meh on every issue since MC. Was this a drastic change, or did you like the previous issues?

[Glixy]

By the way...

How awesome (maybe not the right word) was it when X-23 remembered what Logan told her, and just stood there and took it!

Powerful stuff.

[Vonn Hennigar]

X-Men Legacy # 212

I thought it was very good but it's clearly middle chapter city, i'm happy to see Gambit again on the side of the angels(Even though he was never really bad was he? He was simply working with Mystique to help cure Rogue right?) The Mike Deodato flashbacks were awesome even including the Onslaught - Professor X bitch mouths the team scene! But the overall mystery is just that, a mystery i can't quite figure it out aside from Sinister is an asshole and i've known that for 20 years. I'm also not sure where Mike Carey is leading with this? Perhaps Professor X starting up his own team of X-Men?

7/10

Uncanny X-Men # 498

This arc feels like light-hearted beautiful filler. It's not bad by any means it's just sort of there. I still have no clue who the goddess is :? & the Wolverine/Colossus/Nightcrawler stuff in Russia is just a good ol fashioned dust up. The books on auto-pilot until # 500 and well you can sorta tell.

6/10

X-Force # 4

Holy God, is this book off to a flying start or what? Nice narration by X-23, more great EVIL shit from the Purifiers and big big changes coming for our resident Mr.Worthington. I'm absolutely loving this! I want a good explanation for Ms. Sinclair's actions though but i KNOW i'm going to get it.

9/10

Wolverine Origins # 25

I'm a week late with this one. More of the same from Daniel Way this issue, that is if you like good ol Logan you'll probably enjoy this book. (No lupines or angel of death bullshit here!) That said this whole 5 issue arc can be summed up thusly...Deadpool fights Wolverine and beats him,Daken shows up and fights Deadpool, Wolverine escapes and the Winter Soldier!! shows up to help Logan and shoots ol Daken in the back of the head with some special Carbonadium bullets which mess up his healing factor then Logan takes his son away in the hopes of turning him into a better person basically.

I've got a feeling it's not going to work. With that we bid Mr/Steve Dillon farewell after 25 issues.

6/10

Still to come...Giant Size Astonishing X-Men,Wolverine : First Class and Angel : Revelations.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

:(, really? I've been totally meh on every issue since MC. Was this a drastic change, or did you like the previous issues?

I've been really digging this whole arc. If you haven't been liking it, there probably isn't much in this issue for you, either. :(

[Ryan F]

I still have no clue who the goddess is :?

I think it's
the other Lady Mastermind - Jason Wyngarde's other daughter from Claremont's X-treme.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Uncanny X-Men # 498

This arc feels like light-hearted beautiful filler. It's not bad by any means it's just sort of there. I still have no clue who the goddess is :? & the Wolverine/Colossus/Nightcrawler stuff in Russia is just a good ol fashioned dust up. The books on auto-pilot until # 500 and well you can sorta tell.

6/10


Martinique Jason. One of Mastermind's daughters (not the one recently seen in X-Men)

[Vonn Hennigar]

I think it's
the other Lady Mastermind - Jason Wyngarde's other daughter from Claremont's X-treme.

I had a feeling it had something to do with X-Treme X-Men. The one major X-Book i never read a single issue of!

Off to Wikipedia i go.

[HOOKS]

I loved Giant Sized Astonishing X-Men, I really did. But...

...this is like the fourth or fifth X-Man over the last year or two that's been launched into space to be dealt with later.

Havok, Polaris, Marvel Girl, and now Kitty Pryde. If we include those being sent to another dimension/plane of existence, we can include Phoenix, Sage, and Psylocke. If we don't include the last two years, we can throw Magik onto the list, as well.

And if you want to be picky, we can add Cable, Cannonball, and Bishop, who are all now in an alternate future dimension.

There really needs to be a different way to get rid of X-Men.

[Ryan F]

I loved Giant Sized Astonishing X-Men, I really did. But...

...this is like the fourth or fifth X-Man over the last year or two that's been launched into space to be dealt with later.

Havok, Polaris, Marvel Girl, and now Kitty Pryde. If we include those being sent to another dimension/plane of existence, we can include Phoenix, Sage, and Psylocke. If we don't include the last two years, we can throw Magik onto the list, as well.

And if you want to be picky, we can add Cable, Cannonball, and Bishop, who are all now in an alternate future dimension.

There really needs to be a different way to get rid of X-Men.

I can't figure out what it accomplishes to send Kitty off in this way. Havok, Polaris and Rachel are at least in position for a big epic Shiar story when the x-writers get around to it (hopefully a couple of years or so). Kitty is just out there...somewhere....far away....Not really dead. What's the point?

[HOOKS]

Maybe they are going to merge the Starjammers and Exiles concepts into a new book (Star Exiles?) and they wanted to have Kitty and Rachel team-up again.


And now that I think about it, there's only one Summers-related family member left on Earth. Cable's in the future, Corsair's dead, Jean's in "another plane of existence", and Havok, Rachel, and Vulcan are all in space.

[iGotKittyPryde]

I loved Giant Sized Astonishing X-Men, I really did. But...

...this is like the fourth or fifth X-Man over the last year or two that's been launched into space to be dealt with later.

Havok, Polaris, Marvel Girl, and now Kitty Pryde. If we include those being sent to another dimension/plane of existence, we can include Phoenix, Sage, and Psylocke. If we don't include the last two years, we can throw Magik onto the list, as well.

And if you want to be picky, we can add Cable, Cannonball, and Bishop, who are all now in an alternate future dimension.

There really needs to be a different way to get rid of X-Men.

I'm just happy that...

They left the door open for her return. I'm not convinced the character really needs the rest that they apparently are going to give her, but oh well... at least there is Wolverine: First Class and Ultimate Spidey and she'll be back sooner or later.

[Santana]

I know this is crazy, but that art has a MAJOR Jim Lee vibe going on. I'm positive he is not penciling Wolvie: Origins, but that looks a TON like his wolvie.

Also...

I dropped UXM today, but ADORED xmen Legacy and xforce for whatever thats worth.

I can't quite place the pencils but I would bet pounds to dollars that the inker is Mikki.

[Ryan F]

I'm just happy that...

They left the door open for her return. I'm not convinced the character really needs the rest that they apparently are going to give her, but oh well... at least there is Wolverine: First Class and Ultimate Spidey and she'll be back sooner or later.

Of all th ex-characters, I think she's the least in need of a rest. When she joined the Astonishing cast, she was already coming off a 5 year exile, and before that, she spend most of the 90s on Excalibur. She's one of the core X-Men, and she's a great character. She should be on the main team.

I really just think Whedon sent her off in a bid to make his final arc seem more relevant.

[Santana]

Of all th ex-characters, I think she's the least in need of a rest. When she joined the Astonishing cast, she was already coming off a 5 year exile, and before that, she spend most of the 90s on Excalibur. She's one of the core X-Men, and she's a great character. She should be on the main team.

I really just think Whedon sent her off in a bid to make his final arc seem more relevant.


Unless it is all just a setup for Ellis.

[iGotKittyPryde]

Of all th ex-characters, I think she's the least in need of a rest. When she joined the Astonishing cast, she was already coming off a 5 year exile, and before that, she spend most of the 90s on Excalibur. She's one of the core X-Men, and she's a great character. She should be on the main team.

I really just think Whedon sent her off in a bid to make his final arc seem more relevant.

I totally agree with that. But whatever. I actually hope they don't make a big deal out of it until...

she gets brought back. I mean, a funeral issue would be silly, as it's pretty obvious she's coming back. I just hope they don't try to milk it.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Haven't read my books yet but the only X-Books I bought were Astonishing and Uncanny. Mike Carey's writing leaves me cold so I'll deal with spoilers only so I'm not lost if there's another crossover. X-Force as a concept just doesn't work for me, especially regressing Laura and dirtying up Rahne. Just curious though about the whole Warren/Archangel thing I thought I caught in previews...

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

A question for y'all since I've never read any stories that feature the Goddess from Uncanny anywhere else: What was the deal with what she was saying when she was discovered? What is her power set exactly if M Day could fuck with her head so bad?

And Astonishing? God, that sucked.

[Omega Flight]

A question for y'all since I've never read any stories that feature the Goddess from Uncanny anywhere else: What was the deal with what she was saying when she was discovered? What is her power set exactly if M Day could fuck with her head so bad?

And Astonishing? God, that sucked.

She has the ability to Cause illusions and make people believe they're real, since she was originally the second Mastermind

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

She acted as if all the vanished mutants were wired into her brain somehow though. That's what threw me.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

She acted as if all the vanished mutants were wired into her brain somehow though. That's what threw me.

Yeah that seemed a bit odd to me, too

[HomerGator]

So, yesterday I got the new Giant Size Astonishing, the new X-Force, the new Uncanny, and the new Legacy.

I thought all of them were friggin awesome!!! Especially X-Force. The last few pages had me fighting myself not to flip to the end. Heartbreaking, yet cheer inducing, stuff. Poor Warren.

[Gnome]

I for one am happy to have Archangelback

[markgrayson]

Deodato to draw Wolverine: Origins starting in September. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16603

:rock:

[Vonn Hennigar]

Yay!

His recent stuff on Thunderbolts has been mind-blowingly good. In fact he's been so good unless sales go up on Wolverine Origins i can't see him staying there for long.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Reason #3 I won't be reading anymore X-Men: Legacy.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16604

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Reason #3 I won't be reading anymore X-Men: Legacy.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16604

ugh

[iGotKittyPryde]

Reason #3 I won't be reading anymore X-Men: Legacy.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16604

Ugh. I guess I'll be dropping Legacy too.

There is pretty much no comic in either company that I dislike more than 'Origins'. I'm not even entirely sure why that's the case, but it is.

[GrandMaster Funk]

Yeah, bye bye Legacy. I'm tired of titles crossing over.

[The Roman]

Oh screw you fanboys. I'm digging the hell out of Legacy. And I'm more than willing to at least give it a try. And guess what, Legacy will still be there after this crossover is done. :miffed:

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Oh, I'll keep reading it, as I love the title, but I'm still not happy about the crossover and I won't be picking up the Origins tie-in issues.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I've already dropped it and I was wavering a little (I don't like Carey or Xavier) but the X-over cinched it for me. I'll listen to y'all rhapsodize over it.

[tim nixon]

this weeks legacy...

am i to believe that sinister is behind the formation of the xmen? i kind of hope so. xavier has been a dick for so long, it would seem righteous to me for his greatest accomplishment to actually be sinister's...

[Vonn Hennigar]

this weeks legacy...

am i to believe that sinister is behind the formation of the xmen? i kind of hope so. xavier has been a dick for so long, it would seem righteous to me for his greatest accomplishment to actually be sinister's...

I didn't "see" that at all :?

He's simply continuing his investigations into mutants this time with a young Professor X but Charles still was born a mutant and eventually saw the need for a team of mutants when more and more mutants started being born years later.

[NickT]

Reason #3 I won't be reading anymore X-Men: Legacy.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16604

Ugh. I guess I'll be dropping Legacy too.

There is pretty much no comic in either company that I dislike more than 'Origins'. I'm not even entirely sure why that's the case, but it is.

Yeah, bye bye Legacy. I'm tired of titles crossing over.
Couldn't you just.....not read the crossover?

[tim nixon]

I didn't "see" that at all :?

He's simply continuing his investigations into mutants this time with a young Professor X but Charles still was born a mutant and eventually saw the need for a team of mutants when more and more mutants started being born years later.

oh, i believe charles is a mutant. seems it is just too good an opportunity for sinister to pass up, although i think we have seen him brush powerful things aside because they don't tie into his long-term plans.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Well what is Sinister's long-term plans?

I think they explained his interest in the Summers Clan as him seeing the potential of their genes to produce the ultimate mutant which Sinister would use to defeat Apocalypse and further his own evil ambitions. His interest in Xavier could be more of the same he simply isn't aware of the Summers because they hadn't been born yet obviously.

That and his general interest in the mutant x-gene of course. I don't think they'll do anything dumb like Sinister creating the x-gene in Charles or Magneto or whatever but him investigating potential mutant children throughout the world is classic Sinister.

[HomerGator]

I think they explained his interest in the Summers Clan as him seeing the potential of their genes to produce the ultimate mutant which Sinister would use to defeat Apocalypse and further his own evil ambitions. His interest in Xavier could be more of the same he simply isn't aware of the Summers because they hadn't been born yet obviously.

Exactly. It's interesting that he was trying to accomplish the same goal (or at least conduct the same research) for so long. I really liked the idea that the only reason the Professor's mom married Cain Marko was because Sinister would never let any of them leave. I'm interested to see if he had any of the same 'sessions' with Cain that he had with Charles.

[rwsmith]

Couldn't you just.....not read the crossover?

They'll read it anyway. And sales on both books will see a nice little jump thanks to the crossover.

Personally I'm pretty psyched for this. It sounds good and is actually a logical reason for the two books to cross over.

Plus Mike Deodato, Jr. is now the penciler on Origins. :thumb:

[HomerGator]

They'll read it anyway. And sales on both books will see a nice little jump thanks to the crossover.

Personally I'm pretty psyched for this. It sounds good and is actually a logical reason for the two books to cross over.

Plus Mike Deodato, Jr. is now the penciler on Origins. :thumb:

Damn straight on all counts. I don't get the Legacy or Origins hate. I really enjoy both books. The Wolverine-Deadpool fight was great! It was like the Roadrunner v the Coyote, only with guns and pointy things.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Damn straight on all counts. I don't get the Legacy or Origins hate. I really enjoy both books. The Wolverine-Deadpool fight was great! It was like the Roadrunner v the Coyote, only with guns and pointy things.


People clearly don't agree with me but I have a general dislike for Wolverine solo books. I picked up Origins because it was purported to be about the mysteries of Logan's life being revealed to us now that they had been revealed to him, the mysteries we'd seen alluded to over the years. Instead we got new backstory created that is all over the place and felt contradictory to what had already been established so I dropped the book. Legacy? Dude, I forgot it was out two issues ago, didn't even register seeing it on the wall, and have taken that to mean my gut is telling me not to bother with the book. I don't find Xavier that compelling a character, especially written by Carey, and despite having read nearly all the stories it references I don't like books that you need a PhD in comics or access to Wikipedia to rummage through.Most of all, Carey's stuff just sits there on the page for me. I understand taste is subjective so I get that I'm a minority in my Carey apathy but I so do not see or understand why people go ape shit over any of his work. He seems like a great guy when interviewed so I s'pose it's a good thing he's seeing this success I just will never understand it.

[artimoff]

X-Force #4 - This is what I was afraid of; we're officially on the train to emo-land. Yost and Kyle are great storytellers, but they really like the pain, huh? I loved what the purifiers were doing, and I enjoyed Logan's outburst - a genuinely good character moment. What's happening to Rahne and Warren I am not so fond of... 4/10

Did we really need archangel back? I really dig Angel, but hate Archangel

[Zac Goyette]

People clearly don't agree with me but I have a general dislike for Wolverine solo books. I picked up Origins because it was purported to be about the mysteries of Logan's life being revealed to us now that they had been revealed to him, the mysteries we'd seen alluded to over the years. Instead we got new backstory created that is all over the place and felt contradictory to what had already been established so I dropped the book. Legacy? Dude, I forgot it was out two issues ago, didn't even register seeing it on the wall, and have taken that to mean my gut is telling me not to bother with the book. I don't find Xavier that compelling a character, especially written by Carey, and despite having read nearly all the stories it references I don't like books that you need a PhD in comics or access to Wikipedia to rummage through.Most of all, Carey's stuff just sits there on the page for me. I understand taste is subjective so I get that I'm a minority in my Carey apathy but I so do not see or understand why people go ape shit over any of his work. He seems like a great guy when interviewed so I s'pose it's a good thing he's seeing this success I just will never understand it.

I get that taste is subjective as well, but if you don't like Wolverine solo titles, why would you pick one up? The book was doomed to fail before you even read it. I am one of the many pro-Carey guys. Iceman, Rogue, and Cannonball haven't been portrayed as cool as Carey was writing them in years. As important as Xavier is to the X-Men Universe and the Marvel Universe, he has never really been given much spotlight. A reflective character like that learning about himself through other character's eyes is a very interesting take on the character. Being a huge X-Men nerd, I love the references to past and obscure stories.

[joeAR]

Did we really need archangel back? I really dig Angel, but hate Archangel


You and I are opposites my friend. While I like Angel, i've always been a huge Archangel fan. Uncanny #338 is one of my most hated comics of all time so this issue, in way, redeemed that.

[joeAR]

Giant Size Astonishing was fantastic. I loved every panel. Whedon needs to write Spiderman one day. Whedon did what I thought was impossible during his run and made me care about Beast and, gasp, like Cyclops.

[Arion]

I get that taste is subjective as well, but if you don't like Wolverine solo titles, why would you pick one up? The book was doomed to fail before you even read it. I am one of the many pro-Carey guys. Iceman, Rogue, and Cannonball haven't been portrayed as cool as Carey was writing them in years. As important as Xavier is to the X-Men Universe and the Marvel Universe, he has never really been given much spotlight. A reflective character like that learning about himself through other character's eyes is a very interesting take on the character. Being a huge X-Men nerd, I love the references to past and obscure stories.

I love references to obscure and forgotten subplots or unpopular characters. But I am not a nerd for that.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

BTW, I hate all of you.

Okay, some of you. I resisted X-Force because the premise didn't sound appealing, it replaced New X-Men on the schedule, and I was bitter about K-Y being reassigned. Thanks to y'all talking it up so much I decided to buy X-Force today. They were out of last week's issue but I did get the collected first three and loved it. Damn you all!

Oh, and how stupid do they think we are in regards to Young X-Men. There's an ad for Uncanny 500 right in the book and Cannonball is a featured player. We have been told Good Karma will appear pretty much at the very beginning of Manifest Destiny. Yet, YXM is still being written as if all is kosher with their mission status. Add in the fact that this book, Uncanny, and X-Force are wildly out of synch with the timeline and YXM is the best written and drawn book that I have hated in years. (and don't jump all over me about my mentioning timeline errors. If it were aslight thing like you used to get between Spider-Books or Bat-Books it'd be one thing but it is jarringly divergent!)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I love references to obscure and forgotten subplots or unpopular characters. But I am not a nerd for that.


I do too but I'd rather a book at least pretend to have a reason to exist beyond that. For me it's good icing on the cake but as a whole meal? Bleargh!

[Santana]

Cable was great.

Turning Bishop into a villain in the same vein as Gul Dukat was one of the best decisions to come out of the X offices in a while. He is now a lot more interesting to me than he has ever to me in the past.

[Omega Flight]

BTW, I hate all of you.

Okay, some of you. I resisted X-Force because the premise didn't sound appealing, it replaced New X-Men on the schedule, and I was bitter about K-Y being reassigned. Thanks to y'all talking it up so much I decided to buy X-Force today. They were out of last week's issue but I did get the collected first three and loved it. Damn you all!

Oh, and how stupid do they think we are in regards to Young X-Men. There's an ad for Uncanny 500 right in the book and Cannonball is a featured player. We have been told Good Karma will appear pretty much at the very beginning of Manifest Destiny. Yet, YXM is still being written as if all is kosher with their mission status. Add in the fact that this book, Uncanny, and X-Force are wildly out of synch with the timeline and YXM is the best written and drawn book that I have hated in years. (and don't jump all over me about my mentioning timeline errors. If it were aslight thing like you used to get between Spider-Books or Bat-Books it'd be one thing but it is jarringly divergent!)
I agree. I tried out X-Force this week and bought Legacy of Vengeance and have loved it ever since.

[Chris Yost]

BTW, I hate all of you.

Okay, some of you. I resisted X-Force because the premise didn't sound appealing, it replaced New X-Men on the schedule, and I was bitter about K-Y being reassigned. Thanks to y'all talking it up so much I decided to buy X-Force today. They were out of last week's issue but I did get the collected first three and loved it. Damn you all!

Thanks, Cardinal! And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a second printing of issue 4.

We've gotten most of the pages in for issue 5, and it's pretty sweet. There's a double page spread in there that's pretty jaw-dropping. Especially if you like blood.

And dismemberment.

[Omega Flight]

Thanks, Cardinal! And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a second printing of issue 4.

We've gotten most of the pages in for issue 5, and it's pretty sweet. There's a double page spread in there that's pretty jaw-dropping. Especially if you like blood.

And dismemberment.

Surprisingly even though I'm not a big fan of blood and gore ever since I got into X-Force I look forward those moments just to see how much more bloody it can get.
The part with Angel and Elixir was pretty scary. How do you and Craig sleep at night?

[Chris Yost]

We sleep like BABIES! Because we get it all out on the page.

Funnily enough, when we write the stuff it never seems quite so bloody. And then we see Clayton bring it to life. And THEN it seems horrifically violent. :)

[Omega Flight]

We sleep like BABIES! Because we get it all out on the page.

Funnily enough, when we write the stuff it never seems quite so bloody. And then we see Clayton bring it to life. And THEN it seems horrifically violent. :)

:O I guess he really likes this huh? Also I wanted to say that part with Gabriel being given Arch Angel wings was pretty freaky and the look on his face just scared the shit out of me since he didn't look at all scared. Hell the wings period were scary. Also I don't have a handy dandy X-Men book handy but what was the deal with the Apocalypse wings? From what I gather they just regrow until there's no more room, and if you place them on a body they'll become wings. But my question is how was it that it was there in the first place? If Wiki is right didn't his wings regrow?

[Spidey616]

Anyone read Young X-Men #3? I still have no idea where Guggenheim is leading us, but I'm still willing to follow.

Dani Moonstar seemed to display some badass behavior, bringing it to Blindfold, and Graymalkin has a Gollum-esque moment in the vents.

[Santana]

We sleep like BABIES! Because we get it all out on the page.

Funnily enough, when we write the stuff it never seems quite so bloody. And then we see Clayton bring it to life. And THEN it seems horrifically violent. :)


I am really curious to see how CHoi works out with you guys. His stuff has gotten so pretty lately I am not sure how it will work in the environment you guys have set up. Will you be keeping the same tone in the book between the artist or will you change things up based on the art team?

[Chris Yost]

I don't know how to spoiler all this, but here's the deal on the arren-way's ing-ways.

Once the big 'A' has his hooks in you, he's not going to just let you go.

And you haven't seen it all, yet. Look for more in 6 and 7.

[Chris Yost]

I am really curious to see how CHoi works out with you guys. His stuff has gotten so pretty lately I am not sure how it will work in the environment you guys have set up. Will you be keeping the same tone in the book between the artist or will you change things up based on the art team?

Boardmember Choi and Sonia did up some good super-violence for us in X-23: Target X, so we're giddy with excitement for what's coming.

[Santana]

Boardmember Choi and Sonia did up some good super-violence for us in X-23: Target X, so we're giddy with excitement for what's coming.


Is that in trade yet?

[Omega Flight]

I don't know how to spoiler all this, but here's the deal on the arren-way's ing-ways.

Once the big 'A' has his hooks in you, he's not going to just let you go.

And you haven't seen it all, yet. Look for more in 6 and 7.

It's okay Chris but thanks that does it for me. Thanks man!

And are you going to be at WW Chicago or someplace like San Diego? I saw you at WWLA with Craig and you two were pretty fucking awesome at that X-Men panel.

[Chris Yost]

Thanks, Omega. We try to entertain.

We'll be at San Diego, for X-Force and a bunch of animation stuff.

And the Target X series is in trade! Buy 2!

[Santana]

Thanks, Omega. We try to entertain.

We'll be at San Diego, for X-Force and a bunch of animation stuff.

And the Target X series is in trade! Buy 2!

Why not 3!

[Omega Flight]

Thanks, Omega. We try to entertain.

We'll be at San Diego, for X-Force and a bunch of animation stuff.

And the Target X series is in trade! Buy 2!

Cause it's you and has Choi in it I will. Also I wanted to say even though X-Force has been loads of fun some of the character moments just got to me.

Like Laura cutting herself for instance it just makes your heart wrench out a little. It nearly made me weep a little.

Oh wait that's not a tear just somethin in my eye!

[artimoff]

Chris, how can I lobby for you & Craig to take over Astonishing when Ellis is done with his 24 issues?

[Chris Yost]

Aww. You rule, artimoff.

You should constantly bring it up to Warren Ellis. Even before his first issue hits.

[Omega Flight]

Aww. You rule, artimoff.

You should constantly bring it up to Warren Ellis. Even before his first issue hits.

Dude Warren Ellis will banish him to hell or some other Ellis created dimension for annoying him. Don't send your fans to their deaths :(

But yeah if you were to take it over that'd be pretty cool.

[MabusRex]

<3 Chris
<4 Archangel
:D

[Marcdachamp]

Chris, just wanted to say how much I'm loving X-Force. You guys are NAILING it.

[artimoff]

Dude Warren Ellis will banish him to hell or some other Ellis created dimension for annoying him. Don't send your fans to their deaths :(

But yeah if you were to take it over that'd be pretty cool.


I've already been told by Ellis to "fuck off", so I can take the heat.

[Omega Flight]

I've already been told by Ellis to "fuck off", so I can take the heat.

He seriously told you that? He called me "retarded" when I listed the same choice twice in a bunch of questions I was asking him. I wept all day :surrend:

[Arion]

I do too but I'd rather a book at least pretend to have a reason to exist beyond that. For me it's good icing on the cake but as a whole meal? Bleargh!

I get your point.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

1) I'm disappointed I didn't save someone's scan of Mystique ralphing on WOlverine. That would have been cool as a link.

B) I spontaneously created a word today! I actually do this a lot but I like this one: snarktard! Please, please, please, please use it!

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I read Giant Size Astonishing X-Men earlier. Hot damn, that was fantastic.

Next up: X-Force 4

[HomerGator]

I read Giant Size Astonishing X-Men earlier. Hot damn, that was fantastic.

Next up: X-Force 4

I'm interested to see your reaction to it. I loved the shit out of it.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I thought that issue of X-Force was disappointing, to be honest.

[HomerGator]

Hmmm. I guess I'm one of the few that thinks Archangel > Angel.

[MabusRex]

Hmmm. I guess I'm one of the few that thinks Archangel > Angel.

No, no you're not.
Archangel rules. Angel bores. Case closed.
;)

*pimps out new X-Sprites in his signature*

[Arion]

I read Giant Size Astonishing X-Men earlier. Hot damn, that was fantastic.

Next up: X-Force 4

I can't believe Cassaday's run is finally over. He should some X-Men one shots or minis.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

I can't believe Cassaday's run is finally over. He should some X-Men one shots or minis.

Maybe we can finally get the last issue of Planetary, now. :D

[HomerGator]

I know this has nothing to do with X-Men, but speaking of Planetary, I just got the Batman/Planetary trade. Seeing John Cassaday's different Batmans is worth the price alone. Fucking amazing. His dark knight Batman is downright badass.

[Gnome]

After seeing the Astonishing X-Men sketchbook (xforce, astonishing spoilers)
Angel has a new costume with feathery wings, perhaps he will switch back after this arc in X-Force? Do you think he will be able to switch back and forth since it was revealed his feather wings were still made of apoc blood? The third option I guess would be that the sketch was done before the decision to make him Archangel again.

[Arion]

I know this has nothing to do with X-Men, but speaking of Planetary, I just got the Batman/Planetary trade. Seeing John Cassaday's different Batmans is worth the price alone. Fucking amazing. His dark knight Batman is downright badass.

The art was great. I'm glad I got it a few years ago. There were a lot of Batman versions, and they were all fantastic.

[rogerio]

The art was great. I'm glad I got it a few years ago. There were a lot of Batman versions, and they were all fantastic.
yeah...agree!
Cassaday did the definitive Captain America as well...:)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Boo, Cassaday! I do like his Cap but I'll take Land and Young over him anyday.

And I can't believe Young's work snuck up on me like that! I despised his style (dude himself sounds cool in interviews) pre-New X-Men but when I was trying to come up with someone to pair with Land his name popped up first. Okay, not first but the only reason the sterile and lifeless poses of the Dodsons did first is they are partnered with Land now...

[Arion]

yeah...agree!
Cassaday did the definitive Captain America as well...:)

Absolutely. I love his art. And that's why I always forgive his delays.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16840

X-Position with Chris Yost.

Second fan.

Her second question.

Start mourning now.

[MabusRex]

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=16840

X-Position with Chris Yost.

Second fan.

Her second question.

Start mourning now.

Damn, was just going to post this. I NEED a print of Archangel's first page return. Chris, make it so!

And there's nothing saying Rahne dies. I think she might just be changed emotionally. She's on the new team cover, after all.

Oh, and if Sabretooth's head could join the team for just ONE issue, I'd buy 10 copies! Honest!

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Where was the head severed? If it was below the vocal chords maybe we could just accept that his super healing factor is better than Wolvie's because he hasn't had years of adamantium so his brain won't die and we can have a talking Saber Tooth head yelling things at people from the mantle!

[Chris Yost]

Done!

[Omega Flight]

Done!

Done with what exactly? Also can you promise that X-Force will filet alot of Skrulls in SI:X-Men? ;)

But speaking seriously thanks to this board I decided to try out X-Force Legacy of Vengeance (Rainbows and Puppy variant BTW XD) and X-Force #4. I was one of the people that just thought it was going to be all Wolverine and crew cutting up stuff, well you convinced me you can have alot of blood and gore and a story.

And usually I'm not the type that looks for alot of action but damn in addition to the story I'm digging all the action in the book. Thanks Chris and tell Craig that too for making such an awesome book, you've got my money's vote and sorry for doubting you guys!

[Chris Yost]

No worries, Omega. Thanks for giving us a try.

And if you're enjoying the action, strap yourself in. Issues 5 & 6 have a little bit of it in them.

Just a little.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I just noticed that the copy of Legacy Of Vengeance that I bought has puppies and rainbows on it. How did I miss that? The only way it could be cooler is if the puppies had been all blood and gore spattered too...

[Omega Flight]

No worries, Omega. Thanks for giving us a try.

And if you're enjoying the action, strap yourself in. Issues 5 & 6 have a little bit of it in them.

Just a little.

Trust me this is probably one of my favorite X-Men books right now. I'm really digging the relationships between the characters. And I'm wondering how they're going to shut Elixir up after what he saw with Wolfsbane and Angel.

And I'm looking forward to seeing more Purifier blood be spelled in the next few issues. XD Are we also going to see them branch out from just the Purifiers and Bastion, like the Hellfire Club or something?

[Chris Yost]

Trust me this is probably one of my favorite X-Men books right now. I'm really digging the relationships between the characters. And I'm wondering how they're going to shut Elixir up after what he saw with Wolfsbane and Angel.

And I'm looking forward to seeing more Purifier blood be spelled in the next few issues. XD Are we also going to see them branch out from just the Purifiers and Bastion, like the Hellfire Club or something?

You'll see how the team deals with the Elixir 'problem' in issue 7. The last page of issue 6 and the last page of issue 7 will clarify the direction of the book after the first arc. The team will branch out as new threats emerge.

But it can't be, 'uh-oh, Toad's formed a new brotherhood.' Given the team's directive, it has to be something dire. Something that has to be taken care of with a certain level of... finality.

[Omega Flight]

You'll see how the team deals with the Elixir 'problem' in issue 7. The last page of issue 6 and the last page of issue 7 will clarify the direction of the book after the first arc. The team will branch out as new threats emerge.

But it can't be, 'uh-oh, Toad's formed a new brotherhood.' Given the team's directive, it has to be something dire. Something that has to be taken care of with a certain level of... finality.

True. I'm guessing Cyclops considers X-Force the first and last line of defense, I'm guessing this means usually the threats X-Force deals with won't have a second chance to cause trouble again once they're sent out eh?

And also are Clayton Crain and Board Member Choi going to be here for the long run? I honestly can't see anyone else drawing this book other and them.

Thanks for fielding these questions of mine! And I'm looking forward to SI:Runaways/Young Avengers.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080618-Xforce05.html is where you can see yet another interview with Mister Yost. I have a day off, I troll the Internet. It appears Mister Yost gives interviews.

[Omega Flight]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080618-Xforce05.html is where you can see yet another interview with Mister Yost. I have a day off, I troll the Internet. It appears Mister Yost gives interviews.

I totally would love if they actually did use 'Fredpool' for X-Force. Think about how awesome that would be! :lol:

And considering he's a wild card it could easily be taken care of, and have lots of fourth wall breaking. Make it happen Chris!

[rogerio]

You'll see how the team deals with the Elixir 'problem' in issue 7. The last page of issue 6 and the last page of issue 7 will clarify the direction of the book after the first arc. The team will branch out as new threats emerge.

But it can't be, 'uh-oh, Toad's formed a new brotherhood.' Given the team's directive, it has to be something dire. Something that has to be taken care of with a certain level of... finality.

hey Chris...I loved X-Men origins: Colossus.
Any chances to see more of russian mutants anytime soon?;-)
http://www.universohq.com.br/QUADRINHOS/2008/imagens/COLSPEC001021_col.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

1) I thought Uncanny got rid of the Russian mutants.

B) And yes, Fredpool would be cool. If Way isn't going to misuse Bob, maybe he can don a Deadpool-like costume and call himself Fredpool.

[rogerio]

1) I thought Uncanny got rid of the Russian mutants.

just Omega Red...:sad:

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Seriously. Didn't the Russian mutants kill themselves after M Day and they lost their powers? I guess there's still Ursa...

[Magnum V.I.]

Seriously. Didn't the Russian mutants kill themselves after M Day and they lost their powers? I guess there's still Ursa...

Only the ones who served Mother Russia. and even then they could all be just nameless faceless mutants. Don't forget the WORLD WIDE mutant increase before M-Day.

[rogerio]

Does anyone noticed a new Winter Guard in Red Hulk #1?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Winter_Guard.jpg
Ursus, Crimson Dynamo, Darkstar and the Red Guardian...;-)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I've decided that Darkstar is the original. An impostor named Dumas died in X-Men and she's dyed her hair so Iceman won't know and start calling her again.

[Chris Yost]

hey Chris...I loved X-Men origins: Colossus.
Any chances to see more of russian mutants anytime soon?;-)
http://www.universohq.com.br/QUADRINHOS/2008/imagens/COLSPEC001021_col.jpg

Thanks, dude! I loved working on that book, and the art was amazing.

And I think Uncanny is in Russia right now. EDIT: as noted in the last ten posts. whoops.

But X-Force is going to JAPAN!

[Omega Flight]

Thanks, dude! I loved working on that book, and the art was amazing.

And I think Uncanny is in Russia right now. EDIT: as noted in the last ten posts. whoops.

But X-Force is going to JAPAN!

Tell me they'll fight someone OTHER than the Hand?

[Chris Yost]

Nope. It's bigger, and while they're IN Japan, it's not necessarily a big Japanese thing.

[Omega Flight]

Nope. It's bigger, and while they're IN Japan, it's not necessarily a big Japanese thing.

Oh cool :)

And are we going to see anything happen with Rahne and X-Factor? It seems like there's still some unfinished business between her and Rictor, and how about Warlock and the Magus? Since there's a clone of Magus running around town you'd think the Technarchy would be involved.

[HOOKS]

Word Balloon with Brubaker and Fraction regarding Uncanny X-Men #500 and beyond. (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/080620-WBUncanny500.html)

Oh, and Chris - Ed mentioned stealing Board Member Choi from you as the third rotating Uncanny X-Men artist. You guys should fight.

[Chris Yost]

Damns Them!

[HomerGator]

Chris, thanks for bringing back Archangel! Hopefully we get to see him hand Wolverine his ass again. That always makes me happy :D

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Does anyone else remember why Angel quit the X-Men so soon after he rejoined post-jean's original death? I'd love to see Wolverine rub that in archangel's face!

[HomerGator]

I love how Warren is the only one that still treats Wolverine like he's a turd he found in the sink. As soon as Logan started making moves on Jean, that was it for them.

And having Warren with feather wings dislike Wolverine is nice and all, but Archangel can really do some damage, if not flat-out kick his ass (see Extinction Agenda).

[BAMF]

Anyone post the Dodson and Turner variants for 500 yet? I love how the Dodsons gave Kitty her signature flat chest...

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.4033.FIRST_LOOK~colon~_Uncanny_X-Men_%23500_Sketch_Covers

[HomerGator]

Uncanny and X-Men: Legacy were both really good this week. I'm really looking forward to seeing where these books are headed (I really can't wait to see what's going to happen in Legacy).

Uncanny 500 comes out in two or three weeks, right?

[Marcdachamp]

I love how Warren is the only one that still treats Wolverine like he's a turd he found in the sink. As soon as Logan started making moves on Jean, that was it for them.

And having Warren with feather wings dislike Wolverine is nice and all, but Archangel can really do some damage, if not flat-out kick his ass (see Extinction Agenda).

They worked things out, if I recall correctly.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

No one else thought that Uncanny's art looked incredibly rushed or that the story felt like Bru suddenly went 'oh look at the time' and ended things?

[HomerGator]

They worked things out, if I recall correctly.

Eh, they both figured the other one's not going anywhere, but they'll never like each other.

[HomerGator]

The new issue of Astonishing came out today, and although not a whole lot happened, I think this book is in great hands. Warren Ellis has the characters DOWN, especially Emma and Hank (but everyone's spot-on). Bianchi's art isn't as great as Cassaday's was, IMO, but it's still pretty fantastic.

I'm looking forward to this book possibly being on time, hopefully.

[artimoff]

The new issue of Astonishing came out today, and although not a whole lot happened, I think this book is in great hands. Warren Ellis has the characters DOWN, especially Emma and Hank (but everyone's spot-on).


Wow, I thought his Hank was... Well, Warren Ellis with Fur. Emma's dialogue was so bad that, if I hear it again, I might have to put my head up a 90 year old man's anus just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

[chester74]

Astonishing X-Men 25.

I just relized I've been waiting my entire life for this book. It was that good.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I loved how smart Ellis wrote. Bianchi's work was muddy and dark. Not Yu bad but detracted from the experience rather than added. I enjoyed it more than the best thing Whedon ever did. The ending (oh, look. It's page 22. Must stop) was off but it's Ellis. I can forgive...

[HomerGator]

This thread is DEAD. What the heck happened? Only 4 comments on Astonishing X-Men? Really? Man, I'm disappointed. This thread used to be insane. I guess without Bairdduvessa (that's not right, is it?) and YouStayClassy it just isn't the same. I'll try to keep it alive by myself, but that never works. Where are Vonn and JackRabbit? You lazy bastards...

[Vonn Hennigar]

Here i am!!!

Quick thoughts after trying to catch up on over a months worth of X-Books.

Astonishing X-Men - Enjoyed it but the plot couldn't interest me less at this admittedly early stage but i sure enjoyed them talking! No really.

Uncanny X-Men - Meh. The Sisterhood tease interests me and it was all fine but in the end this was F-I-L-L-E-R.

X-Men Legacy - Continuity Porn but since i'm an X-Geek i dig it and Mike Carey answered tons of questions at the absolute right time. Didn't like seeing ol Chuck getting shot AGAIN though.

Wolverine - Old Man Logan is off to a great start and Steve McNiven's art looked brilliantly good.

Wolverine Origins - The origin of Daken was interesting to me but the old Japanese internment zombies uh wasn't. I still think Daken has tons of potential to be a great villain though but this Romulus plot really should get moving already, out of Jeph Loebs hands it may prove pretty good.

X-Factor - Detroit huh? The Rictor/Vibe parallels continue to frighten me. But good stuff overall. I hope Larry Stroman can bring the goods to the artwork or else.

Still need to get caught up on Cable (Should take 2 or 3 minutes i'm guessing)Wolverine First Class and Young X-Men.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I forgot to buy Young X-Men which probably means my subconscious is teelling me to drop the book. I'll stick around until the next story arc and the group's real line up and mission statement.

And the X-Force #4 reprint came out so now I'm caught up and I am loving it! Just about everything I loved about New X-Men is in full force here. It's like the X-Book's version of a summer blockbuster with extra doses of continuity and characterization tossed in!

[Vonn Hennigar]

I forgot to buy Young X-Men which probably means my subconscious is teelling me to drop the book. I'll stick around until the next story arc and the group's real line up and mission statement.

And the X-Force #4 reprint came out so now I'm caught up and I am loving it! Just about everything I loved about New X-Men is in full force here. It's like the X-Book's version of a summer blockbuster with extra doses of continuity and characterization tossed in!

Nods head.

X-Force is so clearly the best X-Book being published right now. Just add Domino and Shatterstar (Shut your Whore mouths!!!) and this book would be perfect.

[NickT]

Nods head.

X-Force is so clearly the best X-Book being published right now. Just add Domino and Shatterstar (Shut your Whore mouths!!!) and this book would be perfect.
Eh, wouldn't put it that far. Good, but not the best.

[tim nixon]

Nods head.

X-Force is so clearly the best X-Book being published right now. Just add Domino and Shatterstar (Shut your Whore mouths!!!) and this book would be perfect.


domino... okay. shatterstar? hell no.

i just think this team was made for betsy to be on. damn claremont.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Shatterstar is an X-Force alum and he's an ass kicking warrior who'll kill without compunction.

Drop all the convoluted continuity shit and just use him as muscle who if need be could be killed off at any time which is always good for dramatic purposes.

[Fake Pat]

Eh, wouldn't put it that far. Good, but not the best.

I dunno, after reading AXM #25, I'd say it's probably the best.

[Vonn Hennigar]

Eh, wouldn't put it that far. Good, but not the best.

Well....

Don't keep us in suspense Nick!

Keep in mind Captain Britain & MI-13 isn't an X-book.

[NickT]

Well....

Don't keep us in suspense Nick!

Keep in mind Captain Britain & MI-13 isn't an X-book.
Sorry, didn't realise you'd want to know better :razz:


Rather than directly answer, allow me to opinionate on all the current X-Books I've read:




Astonishing: Whedon ended on a high, Ellis started on one. Good writing and nice art, even if some of the costumes don't work for me compared to before. Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

Uncanny: Since MC this book has been treading water for me. The arc wasn't bad, it just felt like it was there to fill the numbers up to 499. The pre-MC issues didn't exactly set my world on fire either, so I'm hoping the injection of the incoming people will help the book kick it up a notch. Dissapointed to hear the main cast will basically be the Astonishing team though, seems a tad silly when the X-Men have so many good characters.

Legacy: On one hand this is a good book, an interesting look into Xavier's past. I'm a new reader, so I don't know all of this stuff. On the other, Xavier isn't that interesting a character to be a lead. It's good, but I miss the old Carey X-Men book. IIRC this was originally a 12 issue maxi-series, so I'm hoping it will eventually evolve into something else.

X-Force: Good, although I'm sure it'd do more for me if I knew the continuity they are using. I've wanted an espionage-y X-Team for a while, this may fill this spot for me. Slight worry that the book will become the massacring C-List people book, but I'm not going to complain about something that hasn't happened yet :)

Young X-Men: This book just feels off somehow. Nothing wrong with it as such, I'm sure it could pull it out of the bag later on, but I'm currently not hot on this.

Cable: I'm digging this, it has a very Western vibe. IMO for this book to work, it needs to always have the feeling that Bishop isn't neccesarily a bad guy, and that if they were from different realities Bishop would be running from Cable. So far, so good.

Wolverine: Millar started well, can't wait to see where this goes.

Wolverine Origins: Deadpool arc was fun. Not read any others.

X-Factor: The last arc was the usual level of quality, but the future worries me. It seems to be taking a turn away from what made the book so cool, backed up by the style of the new artist.



Still not sure if the post-MC land is better than before, we're not really into it yet. Give it 3-4 months I guess :)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I second the vote for a streamlined Shatterstar but I'd also like the connection between him and Rictor explored. Not necessarily couplehood. We've seen that a lot more than normal of that the last few years. I'd kinda like Shatter to be bi too or gay but then they don't hook up. I like them as buds.

[Ryan F]

Sooo, 2 big reveals in Young X-Men this week:

1. "Cyclops" is Donald Pierce with an image inducer. Anyone not see that coming?

2. Caliban is alive and talking about Cypher or something? WTF?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

#1 I think my dead grandmother predicted. #2 WTF? I was debating not getting when I go back to the shop now I gots to...

[rwsmith]

#2 sounds like the worst idea ever. Can't anyone stay dead for more than a few months anymore!?

As for Shatterstar on X-Force, please no. This team is great as is, and if they must add someone else make it Domino and be done with it. No one---and I mean absolutely no one---from an alternate dimension or future should be included IMO. That's what made X-Force such a craptacular 90's title in the first place.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

This thread is DEAD. What the heck happened? Only 4 comments on Astonishing X-Men? Really? Man, I'm disappointed. This thread used to be insane. I guess without Bairdduvessa (that's not right, is it?) and YouStayClassy it just isn't the same. I'll try to keep it alive by myself, but that never works. Where are Vonn and JackRabbit? You lazy bastards...

Yes, I am a lazy bastard.

I absolutely loved Giant Sized Astonishing, and I was fairly indifferent towards Astonishing 25. The first half of the issue left me bored to tears. Towards the end there were some interesting ideas, though. But, Bianchi really needs to work on his sequentials.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Eh, wouldn't put it that far. Good, but not the best.

Eh, I wouldn't even go that far. The first few issues were decent, but the book is getting worse. And the art is so goddamn awful. Hopefully, it turns around a bit when Choi comes on board.

[Master Jack Rabbitt]

Sooo, 2 big reveals in Young X-Men this week:

1. "Cyclops" is Donald Pierce with an image inducer. Anyone not see that coming?

2. Caliban is alive and talking about Cypher or something? WTF?

1. Sooooo damn obvious

2. :crazy:

[HOOKS]

Uhm, guys? It's not Caliban.

[The Roman]

Uhm, guys? It's not Caliban.

Phew. Who was it?

[HOOKS]

A character named Graymalkin with a link to the X-Men's past, but it's not Caliban.

[The Roman]

A character named Graymalkin with a link to the X-Men's past, but it's not Caliban.

Ahhhh.

[Ryan F]

A character named Graymalkin with a link to the X-Men's past, but it's not Caliban.

Huh. I was hoping it wasn't Caliban. So, how'd you know that?

[scouser]

The X Men finally get involved with secret invasion this week, with a surprise Skrull reveal in X Factor 33. None other than LONGSHOT is revealed as a dirty Skrull. Absolutely nobody saw that one coming!

[Ryan F]

The X Men finally get involved with secret invasion this week, with a surprise Skrull reveal in X Factor 33. None other than LONGSHOT is revealed as a dirty Skrull. Absolutely nobody saw that one coming!

I wonder how many of his appearances in the last ten years have been retconned by this shocking revelation!

Wait, has he had any appearances in the last ten years.... ;)

[scouser]

I wonder how many of his appearances in the last ten years have been retconned by this shocking revelation!

Wait, has he had any appearances in the last ten years.... ;)

LOL
Does his amnesiac Exiles appearance's count? Im thinking that they haven't abducted him like the others. They are just impersonating him for this story, for some reason?

[Ryan F]

LOL
Does his amnesiac Exiles appearance's count? Im thinking that they haven't abducted him like the others. They are just impersonating him for this story, for some reason?

I skipped the Exiles story (though I did know some version of him has popped up there. What'd he do in it?

I also got the impression that he was just there to get in with Darwin (though wtf would skrulls want with Darwin of all people.

I actually found this issue kind of hard to follow (mostly because of the Stroman art, though also because I didn't recognize/know what's her name from David's She-Hulk...)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Is there any word on how long Stroman will be on X-Factor? I didn't care for his work back then. Now I like his art less. Everyone looks like they're made out of dough and their faces are half-formed. If it weren't for word balloons I doubt I'd have known who was who. I liked this issue but I would have loved it with an artist with panel to panel continuity as a strong suit. This issue did nothing to convince me I should pick up She-Hulk for a change to see part two.

[Ryan F]

Is there any word on how long Stroman will be on X-Factor? I didn't care for his work back then. Now I like his art less. Everyone looks like they're made out of dough and their faces are half-formed. If it weren't for word balloons I doubt I'd have known who was who. I liked this issue but I would have loved it with an artist with panel to panel continuity as a strong suit. This issue did nothing to convince me I should pick up She-Hulk for a change to see part two.

I loved his art back in the day, but I agree that it was too sloppy and confusing in this issue.

[BAMF]

Anyone read the latest X-Position? There were a lot of gems in it, most notably having to do with red heads...

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17245

How awesome is it that Firestar will be returning to the X-books? There's also some teasing regarding Jean

[HOOKS]

though wtf would skrulls want with Darwin of all people.


A mutant whose power is to evolve and survive any situation he is put in?

I'd say that makes for a very useful gift the Skrulls would want to exploit.

[Marcdachamp]

A mutant whose power is to evolve and survive any situation he is put in?

I'd say that makes for a very useful gift the Skrulls would want to exploit.

Yeah, seemed like an obvious thing to me. Darwin seems like an ideal capture for them.

[hotdogdownahallway]

I don't think I can take double doses of mainly the same characters in both Uncanny and Astonishing.

[Marcdachamp]

I don't think I can take double doses of mainly the same characters in both Uncanny and Astonishing.

I gotta see what Ellis has in store for Astonishing. I'm not yet sold.

[Ryan F]

A mutant whose power is to evolve and survive any situation he is put in?

I'd say that makes for a very useful gift the Skrulls would want to exploit.

I'll buy that (though the skrulls have never seemed to need specimens to replicate powers before - but Darwin's are pretty unique). I was thinking more in terms of why they would want to replace him - he has no influence in the Marvel U whatsoever.

Also, is he the only person looking for Xavier? Does everyone else think Xavier is dead? That's kind of a weird subplot...

[HOOKS]

I'll buy that (though the skrulls have never seemed to need specimens to replicate powers before - but Darwin's are pretty unique). I was thinking more in terms of why they would want to replace him - he has no influence in the Marvel U whatsoever.

You could argue that Spider-Woman and Jarvis didn't, either.

It's really about who can be replaced with the least difficulty. Darwin was just recently resurrected. He has ties to Xavier, the greatest mind on the planet and a member of the Illuminati, and the X-Men, home to the remaining mutants on the planet. And he's a blank slate. The only people who really knew his personality are all dead or in space.

His unique powers are also a plus; take him out of the field, and you've gotten rid of (and have exclusive access to) possibly the most powerful and unpredictable mutant on Earth.

[HOOKS]

Ooops, almost forgot this:

Also, is he the only person looking for Xavier? Does everyone else think Xavier is dead? That's kind of a weird subplot...

Everyone thought he might be dead, but since his body disappeared, Beast was looking for him. It is possible Darwin was assigned with the task, as well. His mind-blast from a recent X-MEN LEGACY issue alerted Emma Frost of his survival, so he'll be confronting Cyclops in the next issue. And then he'll be working with Wolverine for a few months in the ORIGINAL SIN storyline this September.

[Ryan F]

You could argue that Spider-Woman and Jarvis didn't, either.

It's really about who can be replaced with the least difficulty. Darwin was just recently resurrected. He has ties to Xavier, the greatest mind on the planet and a member of the Illuminati, and the X-Men, home to the remaining mutants on the planet. And he's a blank slate. The only people who really knew his personality are all dead or in space.

His unique powers are also a plus; take him out of the field, and you've gotten rid of (and have exclusive access to) possibly the most powerful and unpredictable mutant on Earth.

Ooops, almost forgot this:



Everyone thought he might be dead, but since his body disappeared, Beast was looking for him. It is possible Darwin was assigned with the task, as well. His mind-blast from a recent X-MEN LEGACY issue alerted Emma Frost of his survival, so he'll be confronting Cyclops in the next issue. And then he'll be working with Wolverine for a few months in the ORIGINAL SIN storyline this September.

Damn your impeccable logic for thwarting my Darwin mockery! *shakes fist*

[HOOKS]

That's how we do it in Southern Cali, baby.

[Spidey616]

Hot on the heels of the release of X-Factor's SI tie-in issues, preview art has appeared for the SI X-Men mini written by mike carey with art by Cary Nord

http://comics.ign.com/articles/891/891800p1.html

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031702922.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031650610.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031648079.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031645361.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Why does the mini get Nord and X-factor gets saddled with Stroman?

[HOOKS]

Those are some sexy pages.

Marvel should put Nord as the third Uncanny X-Men artist so we can get it bi-weekly, as Bru has hinted before his hopes for the book were.

[NickT]

Is there any word on how long Stroman will be on X-Factor? I didn't care for his work back then. Now I like his art less. Everyone looks like they're made out of dough and their faces are half-formed. If it weren't for word balloons I doubt I'd have known who was who. I liked this issue but I would have loved it with an artist with panel to panel continuity as a strong suit. This issue did nothing to convince me I should pick up She-Hulk for a change to see part two.
Siryn seemed DESPERATE for a hairbrush too. Her hair was crazy!

[Matthew Brown]

I enjoyed Stroman's artwork. Then again, I was a fan of the old X-Factor.

[scouser]

Hot on the heels of the release of X-Factor's SI tie-in issues, preview art has appeared for the SI X-Men mini written by mike carey with art by Cary Nord

http://comics.ign.com/articles/891/891800p1.html

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031702922.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031650610.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031648079.jpg

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/891/891800/secret-invasion-x-men-20080717031645361.jpg
Oh my God that is some sexy artwork! I can not wait for this! Do you think any of thee X Men will be Skrulls? Or is it justLongshot the one who drew the short straw?

[Spidey616]

Vulcan announcement coming next week at SDCC....

http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.4260.Who_Will_Rule%3F_Vulcan~dot~~dot ~~dot~

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I enjoyed Stroman's artwork. Then again, I was a fan of the old X-Factor.

I was a fan of the old X-Factor too and didn't like Stroman's art then either. I'll tough it out if he's gonna lasta s long as the old days but any more than that and I think I'll have to have someone read me the book or stop buying it.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Oops! I just checked a fan site to remind myself how long Stroman's previous run was and found out it was nine non-contiguous issues. I won't last that long. If the Skrull in the issue stays the Skrull and the real one doesn't appear regular afterward I'm gonna have to trade wait on further X-Factors with Stroman as artist. It's not worth the monthly price.

[HomerGator]

So... Uncanny X-Men and X-Men Legacy 214 came out yesterday. I thought Legacy was really cool, with a rather interesting ending. I won't elaborate for fear of spoilers. Seeing Gambit 'team up' with Shaw was really cool... an interesting use of Gambit's powers.

Uncanny was... well, I thought that the panel of Cyclops yelling "Suck it!" as he blasted at Magneto pretty much said it all. I cannot believe this is the same writing team that gave us The Immortal Iron Fist, and the same guys that wrote books like Daredevil, Captain America, Criminal, The Order, and The Invincible Iron Man. Hell, I can't believe this is the same Ed Brubaker that we've been reading. The whole thing just... well, let's just say I didn't really like it at all, and leave it at that.

Just a quick note, why are they using Warren as Angel here, when he's just been returned to Archangel in X-Force? Skrull, or laziness?

[Marcdachamp]

Just a quick note, why are they using Warren as Angel here, when he's just been returned to Archangel in X-Force? Skrull, or laziness?

The current theory is that Warren will be able to change back and forth at will after the first X-Force arc.

[HomerGator]

The current theory is that Warren will be able to change back and forth at will after the first X-Force arc.

God, I hope not. If that turns out to be the case, then what was the point?

[HOOKS]

After UNCANNY #500, I'm thinking image inducer.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Then someone needs to hack into the inducer and delete anything that vaguely resembles the classic blue and white costume. I even prefer his yellow and red original individuaized costume and the Death costume to that one. Heck, I'd gladly accept in Choi's hippy gear!

[Spidey616]

Some groovy new Deadpool pages are up, and this looks to be like a good ol' Skrull killing funfest :cool:

Deadpool Preview (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.4459.EXCLUSIVE~colon~_Deadpool_%231_P review)

:deadpool:

[Foggy's Pal]

Who is going to be the leader of Young X-Men now? Does anyone in the good guy X world even know this group exists?

[Arion]

Some groovy new Deadpool pages are up, and this looks to be like a good ol' Skrull killing funfest :cool:

Deadpool Preview (http://www.marvel.com/news/comicstories.4459.EXCLUSIVE~colon~_Deadpool_%231_P review)

:deadpool:

And with Deadpool involved it should be fun.

[HomerGator]

Who is going to be the leader of Young X-Men now? Does anyone in the good guy X world even know this group exists?

That's the question, isn't it? Well, that and exactly what Pearce has up his sleeve, what Sam and Roberto are going to do to Wolf Cub, Ink, and Rockslide (I imagine it involves kicking and ass), and if Dust is beyong saving. OH! And, exactly who this Graymalkin is...

I'm actually enjoying Young X-Men much more than I thought I would. I still don't think it's quite as good as New X-Men, but if losing New X-Men meant we get X-Force (like New X-Men, it's full of fanboy moments and badass action) then that's a fair trade.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I have a theory about Ink: I think his potential power is to alter reality like Proteus or the Scarlet Witch but only his imagination is holding him back. Since he believes he needs the tattoos toa ccess power then he does. I think a Reverse Dark Phoenix story would be fun: As Ink comes more into his power he becomes more altruistic and benevolent yet is still a danger to life on Earth and still must be stopped.

[Andres Pacheco]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17745

Choi's cover is really awesome.

[Omega Flight]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17745

Choi's cover is really awesome.

It's cool but I still wish they'd have Deadpool JOIN X-Force. But she'll do nicely.

[Spidey616]

http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17745

Choi's cover is really awesome.

Alright! Old Man Logan is coming out again. :)

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Love that too and love the latest clue to who survives Young X-Men 5!

[HomerGator]

It's cool but I still wish they'd have Deadpool JOIN X-Force. But she'll do nicely.

Honestly, I think Deadpool works much better when he's working on his own. While it would certainly be entertaining to see him driving the other members of X-Force crazy, I just don't think it would work very well.

Now, if they feel like bringing in people like Domino, Shatterstar, or any of the old members of X-Force (even Cable teaming up for a mission would be interesting) I'd be fine with it, and I'd be fine with them having to try and take Deadpool down...

[Omega Flight]

Honestly, I think Deadpool works much better when he's working on his own. While it would certainly be entertaining to see him driving the other members of X-Force crazy, I just don't think it would work very well.

Now, if they feel like bringing in people like Domino, Shatterstar, or any of the old members of X-Force (even Cable teaming up for a mission would be interesting) I'd be fine with it, and I'd be fine with them having to try and take Deadpool down...

Shatterstar is okay but not Deadpool? I'm sure Yost and Kyle could make him work as a member and as for Cable he is going to be meeting the new X-Force in his one title.

They were his team after all.

[HomerGator]

Shatterstar is okay but not Deadpool? I'm sure Yost and Kyle could make him work as a member and as for Cable he is going to be meeting the new X-Force in his one title.

They were his team after all.

Right on, forgot about Cable...


As far as the Shatterstar/Deadpool thing, Shatterstar is kind of just this dude with swords that used to be a somewhat relevant character. There's a lot you can do with him because nobody ever does anything with him. Plus, he's had experience with a lot of the X characters. Logan would almost surely vouch for him, as Shatterstar has a serious case of hero worship for him, and I'm sure James would vouch for him (if they even needed to; Scott might recognize his value on his own).

Deadpool, on the other hand, is a much more established character. He doesn't need to be on X-Force, because he can carry his own title. He's possibly bigger than X-Force on his own. Also, because of his solo title, there's less you can do with him in a team book. Would it be cool to see Deadpool killing the crap out of Purifiers alongside X-Force, while making fun of everyone and driving Wolverine apeshit? Oh, HELL yeah, it would. As far as in the books, I just don't see Scott going for it, and I sure as hell don't see Logan and the others going for it. I'm not even sure if Wade would go for it. X-Force probably isn't the best-paying gig...

[Omega Flight]

Wolverine is in 6 books 2 of them being solos and 4 being team books, I'm sure we can handle two doses of Deadpool per month if this went through :) Besides X-Force's missions require lots of violent hand to hand combat skills and Wade's got that in spades. And as for established characters Wolverine and the other characters are established I don't see how that stops Wade another established character from being a member.

Although Yost did say that we'll probably see Wade guest star in the future which is about the next best thing I guess.

[Spidey616]

All this talk of Deadpool made me just notice that there's no solicit for Wade's new solo title in the X-Men previews for November. I hope this doesn't mean no Deadpool goodness in November. I'm pumped for the SI tie-in issues, and I'm curious to see what Daniel Way and Paco Medina have got cooking up for him once Wade has finished his business with Skrulls.

[Omega Flight]

All this talk of Deadpool made me just notice that there's no solicit for Wade's new solo title in the X-Men previews for November. I hope this doesn't mean no Deadpool goodness in November. I'm pumped for the SI tie-in issues, and I'm curious to see what Daniel Way and Paco Medina have got cooking up for him once Wade has finished his business with Skrulls.

Eh they're probably just skipping the month since Deadpool is coming out twice in September.

[marco19]

supposedly issue # 4 they added another secret invasion tie in issue , so it will be in the full marvel solicits later today, ign has the cover up already

[Spidey616]

Yup the Merc with the Mouth returns again in November, and it'll be interesting to see if the new title can use its first SI arc as good a jumping on point as Captain Britain and MI13
Very nice cover by Jason Pearson who did the Black Panther SI covers :)

http://www.newsarama.com/preview_images/marvelnew/nov08/dpool004_cov.jpg


DEADPOOL #4
Written by DANIEL WAY
Penciled by PACO MEDINA
Cover by JASON PEARSON
“SAY ‘HI’ TO THE BAD GUY,” PART 1 (OF 2)
His mission in “Secret Invasion” completed, Deadpool goes back to business as usual, completely unaware that he’s been sold up the river by a villain of incalculable guile -- a villain who won’t soon forget -- or forgive -- Wade’s sins. As the Skrull War winds to its climactic conclusion, the Merc with a Mouth has no idea that the worst for him is yet ahead.
32 PGS./Parental Advisory ...$2.99

[Ryan F]

Hmmm, X-Factor 34 was one of the worst Peter David X-Factor issues I've read. Luckily, X-Factor: Layla Miller special was one of the best Peter David X-Factor issues I've read. I guess they cancel each other out...

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

XF 34: The worst of the four X-Books I bought this week. Everyone still looks like they're related to the Pillsbury Dough Boy but it's not as awful as last issue so I don't have to drop the book. If you told me I'd miss Raimondi's art I would have laughed hard enough to rupture something but boy, I miss him now! Jeremy Cox gets points for trying to differnetiate the different green characters but he picked a horrific shade for She-Hulk. The story? The Skrull who must be at every invasion to give peace of mind is too lame for this book and the addition of Jazinda and She-Hulk stretches too much focus off X-Factor characters. I didn'td emand this crossover, didn't want it, wouldn't have bought She-Hulk if it hadn't been a slow week for me, and I'm glad it's over. This is the first tie in storyline I've ever seen PAD do where he didn't come up with an amazing story out of necessity.

YXM 5: The art? I liked it better on Ultimate X-Men where the static feel of it matched the scripts where nothing much ever happened. It would help if Paquette could draw more than one face and physique per gender. Please can we have Madina back? The story? Guggenheim at his worst does a very competent and standard super-hero book and this wasn't even close to his worst. It just wasn't near his best either. I did like the characters all were pretty smart. From Magma saving Dust to Cannonball's realizing how easily a strong fake authority figure could fool ex-students of Xavier's, I don't think there was a character who was dumbed down (even Rockslide, whoa dmittedly can't be dumbed down). It's worth noting that Wolf Cub was already convinced he had a bullseye on himself to be the next dead student. Anyone remember who the next youngest was? They should invest in kevlar. My guess on the title's future? The former New Mutants will mentor the kids in the same way Geoff Johns relaunched the Teen Titans with.

Uncanny 501: If it were just the art, this would have been my favorite of the fourOixie's beating was just heartbreaking but unfortunately plot and story dragged this down. Emma and Scott didn't feel right to me and poor Empath's own abuse disappointed me too. Is the Red Queen the Jean from New New Excalibur or is the transdimensional Jean from X-Man? EIther way, no. Just no. Did like Beast getting fingers back and the introductory caption boxes. A lot. My favorite? 'Xi'an Coy Manh. Karma. Psionic Mind-possesion. Likes girls.'

XF:LM 1: This is PAD at his best. In fact, this issue illustrates why I'm so excited Darwin is joining the team. PAD takes 'knows stuff' and just gets into all the weird possibilities no writer besides maybe Warren Ellis would think of and when we read it, it's just so obvious that this is logical. This issue has also changed my mind about Layla Miller. It's been threatening to happen for a while now but for the longest time I liked her better as a power rather than a character. Now I love Layla. I also can't wait until Bishop finds out she started the Summers Rebellion or for h er to return to the present day. Maybe tho' she could stay there a few years so she can actually legallydate Jamie.

[HomerGator]

X-Factor was, without question, the worst issue of the series to date. Of course, I didn't read She-Hulk, but still. At least Darwin is in the fold. Still not feeling Stroman's art nearly as much as I was in X-Factor vol. 1...

The Layla Miller Special was cool. It was great to see Layla again, and I liked that we finally got to see the Summers rebellion (I never figured you-know-who would actually be the one to start it, though). Rather than tying X-Factor into Secret Invasion, this issue should have been in the regular series, even if it had to be broken into a two-parter.

Uncanny X-Men was much, much better than issue 500, but I just don't feel like the characters quite sound like themselves. I did like the line-up, and the villains are pretty interesting. Where's Empath from? Wasn't he one of Emma's original Hellions? I liked the attack the X-Men are using at the end of the issue, as well. Red Queen? Huh? They've got me for at least one more issue.

I liked Young X-Men pretty well. The next issue should be interesting, especially seeing what the new line-up will be (assuming the kids go to San Fran to meet up with the real X-Men...).

[Kurt Russell Crowe]

Empath's from Generation X

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Empath's from New Mutants.

[Fake Pat]

Uncanny 501: If it were just the art, this would have been my favorite of the fourOixie's beating was just heartbreaking but unfortunately plot and story dragged this down. Emma and Scott didn't feel right to me and poor Empath's own abuse disappointed me too. Is the Red Queen the Jean from New New Excalibur or is the transdimensional Jean from X-Man? EIther way, no. Just no. Did like Beast getting fingers back and the introductory caption boxes. A lot. My favorite? 'Xi'an Coy Manh. Karma. Psionic Mind-possesion. Likes girls.'


Wait, wait, wait.

Are you saying Matt Fraction's writing dragged Greg Land's art down?

I can't be reading this right, can I?

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Yep. Oversexed dialog, weird plot points for the sake of being weird, and a too hip smugness. Yep. Fraction must not have had enough Brubaker to balance out his weirdness. It's usually a great balance. Brubaker tends to be too slow and plodding and Fraction too gonzo. Something was definitely off with the story in 501.

[Spidey616]

An interview with Daniel Way on the new Deadpool series and some sweet new preview pages :cool:

Daniel Way Deadpool Interview (http://comics.ign.com/articles/902/902951p1.html)

http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/902/902951/deadpool-vol-3-20080826042855919.jpg

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[Omega Flight]

If the story lives up to these pages I think I'll be in love. :heart:

I'll be pretty ticked though if Way doesn't take the bone Fabian left with the awesome supporting cast.......

HAIL HYDRA!..... sorry can't help it. ;)

[Omega Flight]

I'm a little at odds with Way's description of C&D. It wasn't that insular and it's not like the book was easy for a newbie to get into, besides the book was fun as hell and it tended to jump into the Marvel U so I don't see how it earns that descriptor.

[NickT]

Uncanny apparently got a negative article in a recent Metro newspaper (Free paper you get on public transport and other places, high readership because of this), because of the Red Queen. The term "sexual devience" was used, no less.

[Omega Flight]

Uncanny apparently got a negative article in a recent Metro newspaper (Free paper you get on public transport and other places, high readership because of this), because of the Red Queen. The term "sexual devience" was used, no less.

:? Well with a name like the Hellfire Cult it isn't exactly going to be roses and cookies.

[Spidey616]

And the previews just keep on coming. New pages from Deadpool #2 are up, and there's a whole lotta Deadpool to go around :deadpool:

Deadpool #2 Preview (http://comics.ign.com/articles/906/906338p1.html)

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[Omega Flight]

Hah I actually saw this and was gonna alert you but I got cut off.

Shit that's a whole lotta Deadpools, which means more of his "gift" *I.E his voice* to go around. :D

[Spidey616]

Aye love those pages too. Best of all-FINISHED PREVIEW PAGES OF THE FIRST ISSUE! JOY :deadpool:

Deadpool #1 Preview (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=428323557)

[HomerGator]

The newest issues of X-Force and X-Men: Legacy were pretty good. I'm not sure how I feel about the situation with Angel/Archangel. I was hoping for the full-blown metal wings killing machine. Kyle and Yost are really sticking it to Rahne. I mean, damn.

X-Men: Legacy was good, but the next issue should be really good.

[Omega Flight]

Aye love those pages too. Best of all-FINISHED PREVIEW PAGES OF THE FIRST ISSUE! JOY :deadpool:

Deadpool #1 Preview (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=428323557)

I went "Oh fuck yeah!" when I saw that last page. God bless Wade Winston Wilson. :)

[Robert James]

The newest issues of X-Force and X-Men: Legacy were pretty good. I'm not sure how I feel about the situation with Angel/Archangel. I was hoping for the full-blown metal wings killing machine. Kyle and Yost are really sticking it to Rahne. I mean, damn.

X-Men: Legacy was good, but the next issue should be really good.

I've really enjoyed the new X-Force, quite a bit more than I was expecting too. I think the Angel/Archangel....situation will be interesting, and daaaaamn was that some carnage in the latest issue! I can't wait to see the ramifications for the team in the next arc, and hopefully Warren is a permanent member instead of rotating in-and-out.

[Spidey616]

Still not completely sold on Young X-Men, but Guggenheim's interview with newsarama not too long ago mentions some things that might be worth checking out like Ben Oliver filling in for the art for 2 issues, a cross over with the X-Fernus storyline, and a Spider-Man guest appearance.

Guggenheim on Young X-Men (http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090801-YoungXMen.html)

[Santana]

Is Omega Sentinel the India Indian Thunderbirds old girl friend from the X-Men annual a few years back?

[HomerGator]

So I just read X-Men: Manifest Destiny, and really, what is the need for this series? I mean, I liked the Mike Carey Iceman story, but this just feels like filler. I'll check out the next issue. Hopefully it will be better.

Secret Invasion: X-Men 2 was good, better than the first, but not great. It feels sacreligious to say, but I'm just not really feeling Cary Nord's art here.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Iceman: The character The Creators all love so much they keep powering him up then drop him from their series and the next writer forgets he's been powered up. Carey's proven he knows and loves X-Continuity so well that he wants to repeat the pattern/story arc nearly every X-Writer since Claremont left has pulled with Iceman. One of these days someone's gonna wake up and realize Iceman is a dud as a character, always has been, and always will be.

[Spidey616]

Previews of some of the X titles coming out next week. Still not quite digging Stroman's art on X-Factor. Still not completely loving YXM but I'm willing to read the next issue since Anole is joining the team.

Uncanny X-Men #502 Preview (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1014&disp=table)

X-Factor #35 Preview (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1038&disp=table)

Young X-Men #6 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1042&disp=table)

X-Men First Class #16 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1040&disp=table)

I know it's not technically part of the X-Men team, but if you aren't reading Cap Britain, start now with the appearance of BLADE!
Captain Britain and MI: 13 #5 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=1016&disp=table)

[HomerGator]

Iceman: The character The Creators all love so much they keep powering him up then drop him from their series and the next writer forgets he's been powered up. Carey's proven he knows and loves X-Continuity so well that he wants to repeat the pattern/story arc nearly every X-Writer since Claremont left has pulled with Iceman. One of these days someone's gonna wake up and realize Iceman is a dud as a character, always has been, and always will be.

You are just oozing incorrectness, good sir.

[Matthew Brown]

I just realized something today. In Mighty Avengers it was revealed that Layla Miller was in Fury's caterpillar file. This means she has some sort of nonmutant lineage that placed her there, right? Just who the fuck are her parents?

[John Drake]

You are just oozing incorrectness, good sir.

Yup. Sooooo wrong.

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

Maybe Layla has a mutant and nonmutant couple as her folks. She does sometimes scan as one and at other times the other. I'm also wondering if Layla was a blank slate when PAD inherited her and Bendis had to ask to borrow her back or if she was a caterpillar when PAD got her and he's had to work knowing what the Bendis devised backstory for her is...

[Matthew Brown]

Maybe Layla has a mutant and nonmutant couple as her folks. She does sometimes scan as one and at other times the other. I'm also wondering if Layla was a blank slate when PAD inherited her and Bendis had to ask to borrow her back or if she was a caterpillar when PAD got her and he's had to work knowing what the Bendis devised backstory for her is...

Well, we know she was a mutant before M-day at least. But that was described as a more physical thing rather than having anything to do with her knowing stuff. So, maybe on top of the mutant thing, which Fury couldn't predict, there was something else...

[Spidey616]

Early X-Men solicits for December and there's a lot of good stuff

Advance X-Men Solicitations for December 2008 (http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=18054)

The reunion I've been waiting for...
X-MEN: LEGACY #219
Written by MIKE CAREY
Penciled by PHIL BRIONES
Cover by MIKE MCKONE
Professor Xavier finds himself face-to-face with his half-brother--The Unstoppable Juggernaut!
But is Juggernaut friend or foe?
32 PGS./Rated A ...$2.99
http://www.comicbookresources.com/images/solicits/marvelcomics/200812-advance/XMEN219_COV.jpg

[Cardinal Braxiatel]

I've liked the softening of Cain over the years but fear it'll be like the Magneto journey, where the whims of future writers undo any heroic character growth. The vague heelish turn was cool in the WWH mini since it freed Cain from Claremont. Maybe they can find him a new power source?

[Omega Flight]

I've liked the softening of Cain over the years but fear it'll be like the Magneto journey, where the whims of future writers undo any heroic character growth. The vague heelish turn was cool in the WWH mini since it freed Cain from Claremont. Maybe they can find him a new power source?

He got back his original powers so I don't think that's needed.

[Omega Flight]

Maybe Layla has a mutant and nonmutant couple as her folks. She does sometimes scan as one and at other times the other. I'm also wondering if Layla was a blank slate when PAD inherited her and Bendis had to ask to borrow her back or if she was a caterpillar when PAD got her and he's had to work knowing what the Bendis devised backstory for her is...

Bendis created her and had plans for her later on but PAD snatched her up first. She's pretty much PAD's toy now anyway and I don't think Bendis would interfere with that.