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Dr. Blasphemy
02-16-2007, 09:12 AM
It's a God Damned Arms race....

Ugh..Kill me.:(

WillieLee
02-16-2007, 09:13 AM
For starting this thread?

chazbot
02-16-2007, 09:15 AM
for singing the damn fall out boy

Bill?
02-16-2007, 09:16 AM
I don't know, I kind of like that song. it's a nice little tune from an otherwise rather forgettable band.

Gregory
02-16-2007, 09:16 AM
I like the song. It's going on my wife's next mix CD.

In fact, here's the unfinished cover for it. She loves Starblazers, and I drew this on the PC:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/heygregory/hcd.jpg

Dropkick
02-16-2007, 09:21 AM
I like the song, though their other works do suck quite a bit.

chazbot
02-16-2007, 09:26 AM
the video would be the only thing, imo, that makes the song redeemable. The band knows how to make fun of itself and its success. I can respect that.
Their current impact on teenage kids makes me sad. but I guess that is really the kids' fault not the band's.

Marcdachamp
02-16-2007, 09:27 AM
I love 'em. I know I'm in the minority on the board for that, but I love those guys.

Dark Sasha
02-16-2007, 09:43 AM
I hate it!!!

Captain Sensation
02-16-2007, 09:49 AM
I havent heard their newest cd (Fall out boy) but im not inclined to dislike them. Ive heard good things about the cd and im going to give it a listen before i comment for or against them.That said, i liked sugar were going down and dance dance off the last album.

Masculine Todd
02-16-2007, 09:56 AM
The pretentiousness in this thread is choking me. :wink:

Fall Out Boy is a good pop-punk band with extremely clever (and telling) lyrics, solid guitar riffs and hooks, including a good bassline, and an infectious presence.

Honestly, the "impact they have on the kids" are the "kids" that are jumping on the bandwagon. They'll move to the next fad in a few months or so so you can go bitch about the next whatever. Go listen to your Shins records.

I'll enjoy this band (which I have been since 2003...cause I'm also a snob)

Captain Sensation
02-16-2007, 09:59 AM
The pretentiousness in this thread is choking me. :wink:

Fall Out Boy is a good pop-punk band with extremely clever (and telling) lyrics, solid guitar riffs and hooks, including a good bassline, and an infectious presence.

Honestly, the "impact they have on the kids" are the "kids" that are jumping on the bandwagon. They'll move to the next fad in a few months or so so you can go bitch about the next whatever. Go listen to your Shins records.

I'll enjoy this band (which I have been since 2003...cause I'm also a snob)

Dude, a lot of people on this board are pretentious and they just dont realize it, not sure if they intend to be harmful or not but they do. When you call them out on it they just get even more pretentious and call you or anyone else an emo kid. I just dont see the point in making threads to bitch about things you probably wont give a chance to in the first place but oh well, its something to do right?

adamgreenberger
02-16-2007, 10:22 AM
It's a God Damned Arms race....

Ugh..Kill me.:(

I hate that fucking song.

Masculine Todd
02-16-2007, 10:42 AM
Dude, a lot of people on this board are pretentious and they just dont realize it, not sure if they intend to be harmful or not but they do. When you call them out on it they just get even more pretentious and call you or anyone else an emo kid. I just dont see the point in making threads to bitch about things you probably wont give a chance to in the first place but oh well, its something to do right?

Oh, I know...yet I still post my responses, adding more fodder. It's a vicious cycle. Also, I'm pretty pretentious myself so I guess I can't complain too loud.

Dr. Blasphemy
02-16-2007, 10:44 AM
I say enjoy what you enjoy and screw the haters....

chazbot
02-16-2007, 10:51 AM
Honestly, the "impact they have on the kids" are the "kids" that are jumping on the bandwagon. They'll move to the next fad in a few months or so so you can go bitch about the next whatever.

Music shouldn't be a fad.

What is sad is when artists compromise their music so that they can make some quick bucks off of a trend. I'm not saying that Fall Out Boy does this. I am just commenting on the whole bandwagon motif. It's why people bitch. They bitch because they think music really matters.

Masculine Todd
02-16-2007, 11:13 AM
Music shouldn't be a fad.

What is sad is when artists comprise their music so that they can make some quick bucks off of a trend. I'm not saying that Fall Out Boy does this. I am just commenting on the whole bandwagon motif. It's why people bitch. They bitch because they think music really matters.

Music really does matter to a great deal of people. I'm one of them. I play music for a (part-time) living and it helps pay for my college tuition. Music is a reflection of a state of mind, expressed melodically, and can change someone, help someone, give someone a relatable outlet. I want to write for Alternative Press someday, so music will be a huge part of my life.

Because music doesn't mean that much to you doesn't mean music doesn't matter to others. :wink:

I know you said "I'm not saying that FOB does this" and you're right. They've been doing this since 2002, when bubblegum pop and nu-metal were on there last legs.

All genre's become "fads" at one point. Even the "indie darlings" like The Shins, Death Cab for Cutie, and Snow Patrol are becoming mainstream as liking indie pop is getting to be a fad due to it's inclusion on television dramas like Grey's Anatomy and The OC. It's sad that people cannot create their own musical identity and must hop from bandwagon to bandwagon, but all genre's are home to those "bandwagoners" from time to time.

chazbot
02-16-2007, 11:22 AM
Because music doesn't mean that much to you doesn't mean music doesn't matter to others. :wink:

All genre's become "fads" at one point. Even the "indie darlings" like The Shins, Death Cab for Cutie, and Snow Patrol are becoming mainstream as liking indie pop is getting to be a fad due to it's inclusion on television dramas like Grey's Anatomy and The OC.

First off... I thought you were saying I was one of the ones bitching about the band wagon kids. Which is why I made the comment. Because music matters to me. It is expression.... well, when it is done well it is.

And I've seen you post quite a bit on "indie darlings" and I am not trying to defend the Shins or Death Cab... but seriously... they aren't indie. Just because kids who listen to the groups call themselves indie doesn't make the bands indie. That's where the whole term independent comes in. When you are signed to a major label and touring to support an album (as opposed to trying to pay rent) you can NOT be considered indie.

I only bring this up because there really are amazing local bands around the US who really embrace the DIY attitude. That is indie music. Not what you here on the OC regardless of what the marketing people at FOX want you to think.

Albert
02-16-2007, 11:42 AM
The song is catchy but I saw a live performance somewhere on TV and the singer sounded like he couldn't do it at all.

The Roman Candle
02-16-2007, 11:52 AM
Kill yourself. I'm not in the mood.

Boris the Blade
02-16-2007, 12:13 PM
I gave 'em a shot. Really generic music. The kind you hear in the background of low-budget TV shows that need rock music in the background but can't afford the rights to a real song. Boring. That's worse than bad. It's boring.

Queen of the Ban Age
02-16-2007, 12:28 PM
I like the song quite a bit and have been singing it for days.

I like what I like, and I'm not going to be apologetic for liking a song. I've even come to embrace the fact that I like Justin Timberlake, and this is coming from a long time metalhead/punk.

Martin J
02-16-2007, 12:34 PM
It wouldn't be so bad if they actually sung that lyric. But all i ever hear is This aint a scean its a godamm arseface. Also some other dodgy lyrics that dont match to what is sung but cant remeber them off hand.

Although it does make me smile and remeber preacher.

MJ

Ryudo
02-16-2007, 12:46 PM
Their poppiness is, unfortunately, strong.

I liked the new song until it was played 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.

WillieLee
02-16-2007, 12:48 PM
I know it's always fun to rag on bands that you don't like. But in today's world you can simply ignore these bands. There are enough music sources that you never have to listen to something you don't like.

Marcdachamp
02-16-2007, 12:55 PM
Their poppiness is, unfortunately, strong.

I liked the new song until it was played 3,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times.

Key reason I rarely listen to the radio. I don't want them killing songs I enjoy.

The Cheap-Arse Film Critic
02-16-2007, 01:13 PM
I actually really love this song. I also love the fact that the people who like to run down the current musical culture that the "youth" likes to listen to seem blissfully unaware that they all probably sound like their fathers.

YC Comics!
02-16-2007, 01:35 PM
I heard it a day or two ago when I was in the car. I thought it was catchy. I still liked their first album better though.

Len Ford
02-16-2007, 01:46 PM
I like the majority of the songs that I've heard from them, including this song. I don't get all the hate.

Masculine Todd
02-16-2007, 06:19 PM
I heard it a day or two ago when I was in the car. I thought it was catchy. I still liked their first album better though.

First as in An Evening out With Your Girlfriend, that was made for about $200 in 2003?

Masculine Todd
02-16-2007, 06:29 PM
First off... I thought you were saying I was one of the ones bitching about the band wagon kids. Which is why I made the comment. Because music matters to me. It is expression.... well, when it is done well it is.

And I've seen you post quite a bit on "indie darlings" and I am not trying to defend the Shins or Death Cab... but seriously... they aren't indie. Just because kids who listen to the groups call themselves indie doesn't make the bands indie. That's where the whole term independent comes in. When you are signed to a major label and touring to support an album (as opposed to trying to pay rent) you can NOT be considered indie.

I only bring this up because there really are amazing local bands around the US who really embrace the DIY attitude. That is indie music. Not what you here on the OC regardless of what the marketing people at FOX want you to think.

I wasn't coming down on you for disliking bandwagon kids, because I'm not fond of them myself.

The only thing I dislike is people who bash bands that supposedly mold their sound to appeal to the bandwagon kids when they actually crafted their sound before the sound became a "fad".

Fall Out Boy is in the gray area, insofar is their sound is quite different from their first two indie label albums, but they still kept a similar "pop-punk" feel and clever lyrical stylings that is both introspective yet anthem-shouting catchy.

Also, I don't mean Death Cab and The New Pornographers and the like are "indie" as in signed to a small time, local record label and the only way they make a blip is through DIY promotion and heavy touring, but "indie" as their sound fits the mold of "indie pop/alt" that comprised the independent scene that was largely ignored by the mainstream until recently. "Indie" has become it's own genre.